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bvilovercgb
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: sail2wind]
      #1743972 - 09/08/17 12:52 PM (70.54.1.189)

It looks worse in person I heard from a friend.

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gracet03
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: bvilovercgb]
      #1743982 - 09/08/17 01:07 PM (208.23.248.130)

Moorings.com has a new "Travel Advisory" page and a additional statement for today.

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StormJib
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: bvilovercgb]
      #1744011 - 09/08/17 02:16 PM (199.168.151.165)

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bvilovercgb said:
It looks worse in person I heard from a friend.




Past experience tells me that starting with the defoliation all the way to the mud on the ground does not translate into digital images. There are just too many details for photography to capture. It will soon get very hot after the storms all clear and you will then start to see depression in the eyes and faces that only a few photographers can capture. Even then the images will not show the group impact.

So yes, real destruction is worse in 360 degrees in person.

With all its flaws our FEMA would disappear the debris. Not sure how the BVI will or should handle the first step after water and food which is wall to wall cleanup. Do you save or disappear the broken materials? Just like the boats, do you just crush them or try in vain to same them at great expense?


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Kirk
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1744021 - 09/08/17 02:32 PM (68.167.192.130)

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GeorgeC1 said:
This is what I would do if I were running the Moorings. Their docks actually appear in pretty good shape. I would quickly triage the boats and determine what can be repaired and what is totaled. I would then target the boats they can have ready by 15 Dec and push those repairs. I would canvass the owners of the boats in the Euro bases and offer a financial inducement to move those boats to the BVI for this winter's high season and send them back for the summer in the med. probably charter a float on float off ship to move them. I would get the Leopard factory cranking and look for a second source of cats. Either Lagoon or FP. This last part may be wishful thinking on my part but I would work with the current owners as much as possible to encourage them to roll the insurance settlements into another boat.
G




Even if they have the boats, will it be a desirable cruising area? I'm not trying to be crass or whatever, but there's so much rebuilding to be done-homes, schools, stores, roads, the power grid/lines etc...will there be places for people on a charter to go? Have you seen the BEYC for example? I'm just wondering if that will put unnecessary pressure to redo areas that aren't that important to people who say don't have a home.

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Kirk in Maryland


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redwritr
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: Kirk]
      #1744025 - 09/08/17 02:41 PM (192.171.44.177)

we've got a charter coming up as well and are concerned about safety, whats in the water after the storms have gone, massive concrete slabs, wiring, not to mention oil, etc. that stuff won't be on any charts

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maytrix
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: bvilovercgb]
      #1744040 - 09/08/17 03:17 PM (198.55.234.168)

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bvilovercgb said:
It looks worse in person I heard from a friend.




We had a house destroyed in Irene in VT. We were able to get in to town to see it about a week after the storm. We had seen a LOT of pictures and it still was surreal when we arrived to see everything in person. Even seeing these pictures, having seen similar stuff in person, I know being there and seeing it in person is a whole different story.

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Matt


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ggregory
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: redwritr]
      #1744041 - 09/08/17 03:19 PM (172.101.206.159)

Ok let's say you have a repaired boat that's taped up. Where do you sail too? Not to many places to go too. Rebuilding will take years. Remember it's Island Time. I'm taking 8 on a cat in November, but that cat is upside down right now. $15 k ??? So now what?

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Christo
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: gracet03]
      #1744044 - 09/08/17 03:27 PM (86.176.174.156)

gracet03 can you post the link to this Moorings advisory?

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aarpskier
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: Christo]
      #1744060 - 09/08/17 03:45 PM (97.91.61.135)

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Christo said:
Can you post the link to this Moorings advisory?




Moorings Travel Advisory


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maytrix
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Re: Upcoming Charters [Re: ggregory]
      #1744068 - 09/08/17 04:00 PM (198.55.234.168)

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ggregory said:
Ok let's say you have a repaired boat that's taped up. Where do you sail too? Not to many places to go too. Rebuilding will take years. Remember it's Island Time. I'm taking 8 on a cat in November, but that cat is upside down right now. $15 k ??? So now what?




Hard to say when it might be possible to charter, but what is really needed in order to enjoy time there? As long as you can get gas, water and food, the majority of the scenery is there - warm water, snorkeling, beaches..etc.

As long as it is not advised to stay away, we will be making our trip in December. Only plus we have to others right now is that we know our boat is ok since it is currently in Newport and making the trip back down (assuming there's a place to put it) in November.

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Matt


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