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FRANKIE2
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: jphart]
      #1752038 - 11/18/17 02:48 PM (97.91.73.226)

Starboard!

My documents were just filed with Moorings since I was down in the Grenadines for the last 3 weeks. We were aggressive in paying down balance over last 4 years. All money from sold owner's time was sent to reduce principal. So I have not seen a check but assuming it is forthcoming, the mortgage will be paid in full and we will have the entire downpayment for a 4500 or almost the full downpayment for a 5000. So it actually worked out fine, since we were sailing 7-8 weeks a year. More next year on a new boat, since I am not working too much anymore!

Kevin
S/V EVENT HORIZON (destroyed)


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SkipperChip
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: FRANKIE2]
      #1752083 - 11/19/17 07:36 PM (72.238.179.226)

Interesting new design. Overall it seems to be a continuing progression in amenities, comfort and creature comforts in the bigger boats. For those of you who care much more about pointing into the wind and getting from Norman’s to Cooper really fast, there are other boats that you can charter for this purpose. But I suspect this new 50 may surprise us in the performance dept. For me, I like my crew of 8 to 10 to be HAPPY ‘MON, and I think this boat will be a nice experience. Perfect? Certainly not. I would prefer a galley that joins the aft cockpit, with a pass through window. And I fail to see the logic of putting an owner’s cabin boat in a charter fleet - what a waste of a single fifth cabin, and introduces uncomfortable decisions about which crew couple gets the penthouse. My wife thinks the stairway in the galley is unsafe for those preparing food in rolly seas. And some of us hope for a built-in wifi hot spot for the whole crew. But overall, this sweet boat will give many hundreds of folks a great experience in de islands,

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Sunnykm
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: SkipperChip]
      #1752101 - 11/20/17 12:03 AM (71.195.127.67)

I, too, wonder about an Owner's Suite on a charter boat?? Who gets it? How do we decide? Could be uncomfortable situation.

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GeorgeC1
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: Sunnykm]
      #1752106 - 11/20/17 06:46 AM (108.213.0.118)

I think the point of the owners cabin is resale when the boat exits charter. I am not sure how much better it is than the other cabins. If you look at 50 footers most actually have one nicer cabin unless they try and cram 5 or 6 cabins in the boat. There will be a 5 cabin version of this boat but will be for crewed fleets. I guess I am going to have to head down to the Miami show to see the boat in person. The galley and stairs there worry me.
I am not sure on the sailing performance. There will also be a version without the lounge top and more sail area.
G

Edited by GeorgeC1 (11/20/17 06:47 AM)


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maytrix
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: Sunnykm]
      #1752118 - 11/20/17 09:23 AM (24.91.86.214)

Quote:

Sunnykm said:
I, too, wonder about an Owner's Suite on a charter boat?? Who gets it? How do we decide? Could be uncomfortable situation.




It's just a cabin. With a little more space. It is not as if anyone is spending so much time that it will make a huge difference.

I think there's a pretty simple way to handle it though. Whoever is handling the arrangement of the charter, gets the owners cabin.

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StormJib
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: Sunnykm]
      #1752121 - 11/20/17 10:31 AM (199.168.151.155)

Quote:

Sunnykm said:
I, too, wonder about an Owner's Suite on a charter boat?? Who gets it? How do we decide? Could be uncomfortable situation.




(4) equal cabins is a newer thing for the the charter boats. Thousands of charters were very successful long before the equal cabin feature hit the market. Many boats leave the dock with one person funding the entire charter(Dad, GrandPa, GrandMa, even some moms. We never share the cost of the boat itself. We treat a rented boat just like a vacation home where we may invite guests time to time.

At the end of the day. The admiralty and rules of the sea say the name of the person on contract decides everything. On and equal split charter? He or She may decide to draw straws for the bigger space. Or maybe the person who agrees to cover all the bar tabs ashore could get the bigger space? Auction the cabin of privilege off to the highest bar tab bidder.... Yes, some will always whine and may find themselves not invited back. No such thing as a bad day in the islands south of Miami.


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mike
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: StormJib]
      #1752791 - 12/04/17 12:37 AM (64.222.220.178)

all thsi time ,i am looking for a mono that has 2 maybe 3 full cabins ..i had a benneteau 473 but two of the three couples felt liek the trash onboard .i am the capatain and spent all these years sailing and learning and then getting certified so i deserve the main cabin ..but they don't desreve the crappy quarterberths.. the next year we got a beneteau 45 center cockpit and it was wonderful .. a full forawrd cabin and the aft cabin even had a bathtub ,so i was able to get back some credibility by using that boat ...it doessn't seem to be around .. I'd love to find a Hylas 49 or 54 but having trouble finding one ..any thoughts would be greatly apprecaiated

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GeorgeC1
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: mike]
      #1752796 - 12/04/17 08:47 AM (108.213.0.118)

This may be a option for you. I am not sure of their post hurricane status but they had a good reputation prior.
George
http://www.iyc.vi/bareboat-charters/


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tothedogs
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1752801 - 12/04/17 11:02 AM (129.63.123.24)

We have chartered from them a number of times. Great company and comfortable, high quality, fine sailing boats.

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ligot
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: tothedogs]
      #1753109 - 12/10/17 11:14 AM (100.14.79.175)

Soooo .... call me selfish but .... if my wife and I are going to organize crew, shop for food, find and contract a boat,sail the boat etc etc etc AND pay the same as everyone else, I wouldn't think twice about claiming the one enhanced comfort feature of the slightly better cabin. No guilt at all.

That said we've always looked at bareboating as either a sailing vacation with some shore stuff or a caribbean vacation with some sailing. If you (and your crew) are more into the latter (and we've found that describes most of our crews) then this boat will be great. The fact that it doesn't point well up wind will be a minor blip to most of the crews we've seen. They'll be thrilled to be on the water in a gorgeous boat with a drink in their hand!

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