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Manpot
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George C1 or other expert..
      #1625966 - 01/17/15 07:25 AM (209.59.87.108)

On our way down this time we were on a brand new AA 737. I was in the row behind the exit and the middle seat on my row...the one across and the two behind was blocked off with, what looked like, a factory installed plastic bar over the seat with the warning not to stash anything on the seat during landing or takeoff. I asked two flight attendants why the seats were blocked..a weight consideration?? They both said it was too complicated to explain quickly and blew me off..So why is AA not filling four seats on a packed flight??Thanks!

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CGB
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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: Manpot]
      #1626054 - 01/17/15 02:29 PM (200.50.67.240)

I was told that there is a rule of # of flight attendants to passengers - ie/ a ratio.
By blocking off a certain number of seats - physically making them unusable - they can skirt the rule and fly with fewer attendants


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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: CGB]
      #1626055 - 01/17/15 02:42 PM (99.12.86.52)

It is an option you can book for extra space so no one is in the middle seat.

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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: CGB]
      #1626056 - 01/17/15 03:02 PM (50.177.88.7)

Exactly what I have read as well - fewer flight attendants needed.

Edited by SteveH (01/17/15 03:03 PM)


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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: SteveH]
      #1626065 - 01/17/15 03:41 PM (174.64.142.233)

A little research shows that the AA 737-800 has 155 seats. The FAA requires one flight attendent per 50 seats so they have to block off 5 seats to avoid having a fourth attendent.

There is just something not well thought out here. If that one row of seats was eliminated every other row would have almost 1/2" more knee room. Not much but every little bit helps.

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Manpot
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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: GlennA]
      #1626066 - 01/17/15 03:45 PM (209.59.87.108)

Bingo...thanks..also explains why the flight attendants were a little pi%$y when I asked them why! Doing the math, though, if they only sold each seat for $100 that would more than cover the cost of that extra FA..make service better and keep everyone happy! They might sell more drinks and overpriced snacks with another helping hand.I realise there are additional costs like potential hotel etc..but....

Edited by Manpot (01/17/15 03:56 PM)


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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: Manpot]
      #1626069 - 01/17/15 04:08 PM (108.96.226.77)

Mal--you're right, it would seem that selling the seat would more than make up for the cost of the FA, but I guess that's pre-supposing that they fly totally full..

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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1626091 - 01/17/15 07:08 PM (184.166.21.62)

or they had any business sense whatsoever, airline pricing IS rocket science

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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: sail2wind]
      #1626120 - 01/17/15 09:48 PM (108.213.2.75)

I suspect for whatever reason they were short a flight attendant. By blocking the seats they could operate the flight. The other option would be to cancel the flight. It's a holiday weekend and the FA's at American are not exactly happy. Perhaps a lot of sick calls. It could also be a flight somewhere else had a mechanical and ran late leaving them short at that station.
I have never heard however of being able to just block the seats. At Delta the seats have to be removed from the aircraft. Surprisingly however different FAA jurisdictions often interpret rules in different ways so perhaps American is allowed this option. Perhaps the seat itself was broken and would not lock up properly. How many were blocked?
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Re: George C1 or other expert.. [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1626126 - 01/17/15 11:28 PM (174.64.142.233)

Looking further this seems that not all airlines are as logical as Delta. It looks to be a standard thing with AA's 737-800s. They have permanently blocked off the middle seats in rows 16 and 17 to get the count down to 150. Seems to be a big thing with regular AA passengers on Seat Guru.

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