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Orange_Burst
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Lift ban on jet skis
      #1627112 - 01/23/15 10:09 AM (72.240.59.138)

Oh, I hope this does not happen!

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Orange_Burst]
      #1627121 - 01/23/15 10:36 AM (64.207.230.166)

Ugh! Me too! I would hate to see this happen.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Sugaree]
      #1627151 - 01/23/15 12:07 PM (69.141.53.52)

Cruisers on jet skis in Tortola??? Good grief!!!!

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Orange_Burst]
      #1627184 - 01/23/15 02:24 PM (209.59.86.100)

If only we could vote to stop this kind of shortsighted cr@p..the NBP..Non Belonger Party.." We've got no vote..we've got no say..all we do is pay and pay"..

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Manpot]
      #1627287 - 01/23/15 07:46 PM (74.100.24.113)

I also hope this is squashed!

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: saildoggie]
      #1627649 - 01/25/15 06:37 PM (173.48.112.95)

I really don't see it being a big deal if a few things were in place. 1. 4-stroke only 2. governor's limiting speed to 30mph. 3. Guided tours only

If these requirements were in place, you likely wouldn't even notice them.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: maytrix]
      #1627659 - 01/25/15 07:02 PM (184.53.0.6)

I think a bounty on them sounds like a good idea. Or they might make nice Mooring balls.

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maytrix said:
I really don't see it being a big deal if a few things were in place. 1. 4-stroke only 2. governor's limiting speed to 30mph. 3. Guided tours only

If these requirements were in place, you likely wouldn't even notice them.




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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: rhans]
      #1627955 - 01/27/15 08:08 AM (107.72.162.120)

Well one things for sure VISAR will need more boats and Peebles more rooms.
Or we can all stay away from the BVI for a year in protest.
If the charter companies lost even half the business the Taxis, and restaurants would be screaming.


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: rhans]
      #1627961 - 01/27/15 08:25 AM (209.59.86.83)

The ones that Larry Henley "legallY??" operates in CGB fly up and down the coast here at full throttle..all the way to Apple Bay sometimes..no regulation at all..

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Lift ban on jet skis
      #1627971 - 01/27/15 09:02 AM (107.72.162.120)

Even if regulated there wouldn't be any enforcement of the law except for maybe 1 day every 3 months

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: sail445]
      #1627977 - 01/27/15 09:19 AM (50.135.93.22)

sail445 I totally agree. There would be absolutely no enforcement. I for one would hate to see them running all over. Part of the charm of BVI is that you can find quiet anchorages and not deal with man made noise. We seldom even play music.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: rita_irvine]
      #1628000 - 01/27/15 10:14 AM (146.126.61.241)

On the lake where we keep our boat the jet skiers ALWAYS go to the quietest cove to do their damage as to wakes and noise.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Manpot]
      #1628007 - 01/27/15 10:30 AM (99.8.136.50)

Quote:

Manpot said:
The ones that Larry Henley "legallY??" operates in CGB fly up and down the coast here at full throttle..all the way to Apple Bay sometimes..no regulation at all..




I am all shock and surprise at hearing this... NOT.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Winterstale]
      #1628019 - 01/27/15 11:15 AM (207.87.200.2)

While I don't want to see (more)jet skis down there, the enforcement issue is a double edged sword. I've seen many boaters do stupid things there, powerboaters, sailboaters, drunken dinghy captains, with no enforcement either. Why would it be different for jet skis? Perhaps some enforcement for all is in order?

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like it there if they do this, however, I'll leave it up to the folks that live there to decide. If I don't like it I'll find somewhere else to go.

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sail445
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Lift ban on jet skis
      #1628056 - 01/27/15 01:42 PM (107.72.162.83)

The reason it would be different for Jet Skiers is because most Jet Skiers aren't boaters, they're idiots

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: sail445]
      #1628058 - 01/27/15 01:45 PM (207.87.200.2)

Quote:

sail445 said:
The reason it would be different for Jet Skiers is because most Jet Skiers aren't boaters, they're idiots




Strangely enough, that's what most of my power boating friends say about sailboaters..............and vice versa!

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Kirk]
      #1628217 - 01/28/15 07:49 AM (107.72.162.83)

Quote:

Kirk said:
Quote:

sail445 said:
The reason it would be different for Jet Skiers is because most Jet Skiers aren't boaters, they're idiots



Strangely enough, that's what most of my power boating friends say about sailboaters..............and vice versa!



Actually most Jet skiers are neither sail or power boaters as windsurfers are not of the same mindset as paddleboarders


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: sail445]
      #1628309 - 01/28/15 12:39 PM (184.166.21.62)

jet skiers can not be categorized at all, it a fun 15 minutes for anyone.
No, not around anchorages


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: sail2wind]
      #1628409 - 01/28/15 05:57 PM (74.123.128.14)

They were going to overturn the ban of Jet Ski's on Anguilla, and there was such a public outcry from locals and tourists, that they stopped that idea...for now.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Ellen777]
      #1628428 - 01/28/15 07:51 PM (173.114.52.38)

Glad to hear that, with regard to Anguilla anyway..

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Orange_Burst]
      #1629676 - 02/03/15 06:16 PM (200.50.67.233)

I have no problem with jet skis even after being hit by one of Larry's jet ski while on a mooring pin at CGB( $600 damage and 8 hours of my time wasted with the police) They can be fun in the right circumstances. I have a problem with the operators of any vehicle who do not have the proper qualifications to operate a motorized or sail vessel. Larry does not carry any liability insurance he only requires a credit card. If the government of the BVI will mandate that the jetski operators have to carry liability insurance before granting a licence to operate it will be very expensive to rent. Maybe Darwin' s theory of evolution will come into play.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: BarbandRon]
      #1629688 - 02/03/15 07:28 PM (65.48.220.241)

Did you get your $$$$ from Larry??

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: BarbandRon]
      #1629726 - 02/03/15 11:28 PM (107.72.162.49)

Quote:

BarbandRon said:
I have no problem with jet skis even after being hit by one of Larry's jet ski while on a mooring pin at CGB( $600 damage and 8 hours of my time wasted with the police) They can be fun in the right circumstances. I have a problem with the operators of any vehicle who do not h
ave the proper qualifications to operate a motorized or sail vessel. Larry does not carry any liability insurance he only requires a credit card. If the government of the BVI will mandate that the jetski operators have to carry liability insurance before granting a licence to operate it will be very expensive to rent. Maybe Darwin' s theory of evolution will come into play.



Was one of Darwins evolved species driving the the Jet Ski ? Did the driver get hurt?


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Kirk]
      #1629728 - 02/04/15 12:38 AM (142.105.173.32)

Quote:

Kirk said:
Quote:

sail445 said:
The reason it would be different for Jet Skiers is because most Jet Skiers aren't boaters, they're idiots




Strangely enough, that's what most of my power boating friends say about sailboaters..............and vice versa!





lol we have a saying " sailing is a sport, power boating is an activity" ...that being said! we do both as many here know so I know the ins and outs of both sides. When we are in a heated regatta and a power boat crosses our bow I am the first to scream "effing power boater" LOL BUT that is because we are also power boaters so it's half serious , half in jest.

Same as jet skiers, we have owned them in the past and enjoyed them. The whole thing comes down to education and unfortunately the stereotypes are true.

Sailors are more or less forced to deal with a higher learning curve in relation to weather and boat performance, And how much trouble can you really get into going 9 kts (unless you are driving yourself onto a reef) . Power boaters basically get in and turn a key and steer, but let's hope that if they got far enough in life to afford a power boat, that a decent portion of them have the sense to operate it responsibly.

Jet skis that you can be 14 and rent for $50 a day is a whole nutha ball of wax. That just screams "I'm on vacation and have never done this" and then "it's a matter of when not if" something bad happens.

My point is, as with anything they have a time and a place, a peaceful BVI anchorage full of snorkelers and folks who are enjoying their time on their boat relaxing is not it! Maybe a designated spot with very supervised guided activity is OK but just willy nilly on their own is a ridiculous proposition. I hope that voices are heard on this and like Anguilla it is nipped.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Manpot]
      #1629986 - 02/05/15 07:32 AM (200.50.67.237)

Quote:

Manpot said:
Did you get your $$$$ from Larry??



Actually Larry was really good about it. Phoned his friend Moko who does fibreglass repair and had a quote in about 60 minutes, put the quoted amount on the guy's credit card and paid Moko directly. Moko did an incredible repair at the dock didn't have to haul out. Giving statements to the police was another story. Both the driver and passenger were unhurt pretty lucky considering the hit us at full speed and spun around under our bridle to the mooring pin.


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: BarbandRon]
      #1630070 - 02/05/15 12:38 PM (184.166.21.62)

Laura, jet skis are more like $50 for 15 minutes not all day.

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: sail2wind]
      #1630075 - 02/05/15 12:58 PM (142.105.173.32)

lol my brain is stuck on Spring Break 1987 apparently lol

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: lauraandrex]
      #1630159 - 02/05/15 06:58 PM (71.186.251.148)

Hi Laura

Just a thought about sail boats and power boats. Back in the day, the races in Wilson Harbor (on Lake Ontario) used the west pier as one end of the starting line with the other end (as always) out in the lake. Well, the hotshots decided to start as close to the pier as possible (when it was the favored end) because they couldn’t be charged for ”barging”. (Look it up in the rules book! A pier is an obstruction. ) You can imagine what the power boats thought when half of a racing fleet charged into the harbor and cranked around to clear the pier. “Just look at all those point things with sticks in the middle.” It was the power boater’s turn to scream about those “effing rag boats”.
Just sayin!

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Dugg]
      #1630185 - 02/05/15 09:46 PM (142.105.173.32)

lol I can see that! We have also had to remind our outer harbor racers that they are in a shipping channel!!! and even if they know that ships have right of way they should still not freak the captains out by cutting across their bows!!

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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: lauraandrex]
      #1630846 - 02/09/15 02:32 PM (50.193.144.241)

Hmmmm.... how to say something about Jet Ski's in a positive way...

Safer than giving a two year a loaded handgun to play on the trampoline with!

There! I did it!


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Orange_Burst]
      #1630875 - 02/09/15 04:29 PM (209.59.86.165)

I debated as to whether or not to post due to so many negative comments. But I feel really badly that the good guys tend to get painted with the same broad brush as the idiots.

Blue Water Rush Water Sports in Virgin Gorda are doing a really good job with their jet skis based at Leverick Bay and if you had any idea what it has taken for these two young men to get to where they are so far ... you (and I mean the royal "you" and nobody in particular) … might speak a little more kindly towards jet skis.

I don't believe lifting the ban would be a good thing either. Not all operators are going to be as responsible as the boys in Virgin Gorda. However, not everyone who rides a jet ski is a moron.

Unfortunately, like many other things, one bad apple tends to spoil the bunch. I did a write up on them on my web site and made a few points that I think are important for boaters to keep in mind.

I really hope they are successful in their efforts to become established and that they won't automatically be lumped in with others who don't make much effort to regulate and oversee the behaviour of their users.


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: LianeLeTendre]
      #1630923 - 02/09/15 07:09 PM (50.153.133.17)

Liane,

I too hesitated in posting. I am no fan of jets skis and wouldn't want to see them throughout the BVI. Having said that, when my wife at I were at Euphoria Villa in December, I was amazed at how quiet the jet skis out of Leverick were. I couldn't believe it! Nevertheless, they are an exception.


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Twanger]
      #1630929 - 02/09/15 07:34 PM (184.166.21.62)

Quote:

Twanger said:
Hmmmm.... how to say something about Jet Ski's in a positive way...

Safer than giving a two year a loaded handgun to play on the trampoline with!

There! I did it!




how about, they are just damn fun to ride, in a safe area of course.
Your reference to guns and jet skis is just plain weird


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Re: Lift ban on jet skis [Re: Twanger]
      #1631015 - 02/10/15 09:20 AM (107.72.162.31)

Quote:

Twanger said:
Hmmmm.... how to say something about Jet Ski's in a positive way...

Safer than giving a two year a loaded handgun to play on the trampoline with!

There! I did it!




Off the coast of San Juan most jet ski accidents with swimmers are hit and run leaving the victim wounded in the water.


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