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Re: TITANIC - COSTA CRUISE SHIP SINKING [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1379678 - 02/03/12 11:55 AM (71.101.41.196)

That could well be true, that they just serve in an advisory role. I really don't know. As I said in this case though there never would have been a pilot onboard, as they never were supposed to stop there. Pilots are only for entering and leaving port. It seems that ships these days are supposed to be computerized and maybe they hire captains that are more 'figureheads', who get along well with pax?? Not to mention causing this calamity, this particular captain seems to have had no clue about how to act in an emergency.

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Re: TITANIC - COSTA CRUISE SHIP SINKING [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1379721 - 02/03/12 01:17 PM (68.100.105.83)

In the Panama Canal pilots do actually take the helm. It's the only place that I am aware that this is the rule/law.

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Re: TITANIC - COSTA CRUISE SHIP SINKING [Re: Anonymous]
      #1379722 - 02/03/12 01:22 PM (71.101.41.196)

I was thinking that was the case, in the Panama Canal.

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Re: TITANIC - COSTA CRUISE SHIP SINKING [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1379750 - 02/03/12 02:40 PM (216.36.123.162)

It is so incongruous... a person doesn't rise to the level of Ship's Captain unless they are highly competent. And yet this incident simply reeks of incompetence from beginning to aftermath. Soooooo... you almost would have to believe a very strong outside or atypical influence had to be in play here. What that could be is very hard to say. I'm just a lowly bareboat charter skipper with no accreditation, and yet I would never have acted with the incompetence displayed by this professional captain.

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Re: TITANIC - COSTA CRUISE SHIP SINKING [Re: Twanger]
      #1380161 - 02/04/12 09:46 PM (68.197.65.252)

http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...stomach-illness

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Re: TITANIC - COSTA CRUISE SHIP SINKING [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1433492 - 08/06/12 01:42 AM (107.9.2.207)

Just catchin up on this old thread.. They also slow down to take on pilots while underway in various tight spaces like the Straights of Messina between Siciliy and Italy.

In the Costa Concordia case, this dude was way off the beaten path. I just read hearings on the black box investigation are about to be released over 6 months later.


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salvage effort getting a big boost [Re: PelicanPirate]
      #1435434 - 08/15/12 10:59 AM (99.12.86.203)

A big crane arrived this week webcam I believe the crane was coming from Norway. Looks like Spring 2013 to make it go away.

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Re: salvage effort getting a big boost [Re: kneafseym]
      #1435845 - 08/17/12 09:40 AM (107.9.2.207)

Thanks for the link. That will be interesting to watch.

Also, the camera view shows just how close they might have been to entering port of Giglio. Dont know if that wharf would have supported the Concordia. It appears a football field or so away.

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Re: salvage effort getting a big boost [Re: PelicanPirate]
      #1440782 - 09/13/12 10:32 AM (152.34.155.2)

I seemed drawn to the webcam every morning. Wednesday the crane was moving away and today it is nowhere in sight. Wonder if this means that they have decided that it can not be lifted enough to repair and refloat? Just curious if any any of you boaters out there have an insight.

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Re: salvage effort getting a big boost [Re: Cats2]
      #1440807 - 09/13/12 12:35 PM (99.12.86.203)

This is the latest news I could find http://news.discovery.com/earth/costa-concordia-salvage-delay-120827.html

I also saw the crane depart.


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