RichardKenner
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The point is that it is deceptive , since you like bolding things. Don't say it costs X and then the grounds fee is there in small print, in addition to that. Just say what the cost is, period. It's not like the grounds fee is at ALL optional.
Yes, if the advertising doesn't talk about it, then I agree with you. Whatever it looks like on the bill (which is what I thought was being talked about), the advertised rate should include all required fees (including the Paradise Lakes "overnight fee", for example).
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Carol_Hill
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No, my point is that they shouldn't advertise a price that basically no one can get. Most of the clubs do it, but that doesn't make it right. Just say the price is X, that's it, plus taxes, or including taxes, whichever. Don't say the price is X, and then later on somewhere in the same page, say the daily fee is Y, in addition. Some deluxe hotels do it also, doesn't make it right. It's one of my pet peeves.
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DenitaLC
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It is frustrating, I agree. Desert Sun, for example, may charge $165.00 for a weekend night. They offer a 10% discount for AANR/TNS (etc.) members. However, this discount is only taken off the "day fee" portion of the room which is $75.00 thus only giving you a discount of $7.50 off your room rental. The "day fee" is part of the $165.00 room charge.
Not my favorite marketing practice by the resorts. :(
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Reggae_Rob
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The real issue is tax. The reason some resorts split the room rate from the day fee is that hotel taxes are often twice or more as much as sales tax. If they were bundled you would pay more.
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Carol_Hill
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Sorry, Rob, I don't really buy that as the rationale. Just charge one rate, period. It's clean, it's understandable, done.
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RichardKenner
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Carol_Hill said:
Sorry, Rob, I don't really buy that as the rationale. Just charge one rate, period. It's clean, it's understandable, done.
But who wants to pay more in taxes?
The worst case of having bizarre rates for legal purposes I ever saw was some small restaurant somewhere in Palm Beach County. Their menu said "We add a service charge of $4 to each item". The menu had prices like $0.50, $1, $2, etc. The reason for this is that Florida law says that smoking is only allowed if the majority of the revenue doesn't come from food. They wanted to allow smoking and they could because there it came from services charges!
I still see nothing wrong as long as the resort advertises it properly. Call your rate $140 (in my example) and footnote it with "includes $40 day fee" and get to charge the hotel tax only on the $100 and save a few bucks.
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Carol_Hill
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I'm just saying that I don't buy that as the rationale.
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Carol_Hill said:
Sorry, Rob, I don't really buy that as the rationale. Just charge one rate, period. It's clean, it's understandable, done.
And you are paying more as the customer, which I think one would not want. It is pretty common practice to structure pricing to minimze the tax cost that is passed onto the customer. That being said, disclosing the resort fee in tiny little print buried somewhere on their website or printed material just aint right.
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Carol_Hill
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We can agree to disagree on this one, but sorry that we got so far off track on the original question posed in the thread.
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LdSandMiraVista
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Reggae_Rob said:
The real issue is tax. The reason some resorts split the room rate from the day fee is that hotel taxes are often twice or more as much as sales tax. If they were bundled you would pay more.
This is exactly the reason that we separate the room charge and day fee at both Mira Vista in AZ and Laguna del Sol in CA. At Mira Vista, bundling the day fee into the room rate for non-AANR/TNS member couples would add $8.13 per day. At LdS, it would add $6.72 per day. Why should non-club member room guests have to pay more? I know that in some states (FL is one) admission fees and services are taxed, but that is not the case in AZ and CA. The rates on the Mira Vista website are very clear. No hidden small print.
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