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Snorkeller
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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: markis]
      #1664844 - 09/28/15 10:31 AM (108.4.119.98)

I had the same thought about social media - I wonder if it is a factor - the fact that anyone can take a picture of a person and have it published to the world almost instantaneously.

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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: Bare]
      #1664857 - 09/28/15 12:58 PM (69.138.217.199)

Good insights Bare...

I remember many years ago when I started my Masters (Business) program the "Introduction to Business Administration" professor asked our class "What is the first duty for every business?" As we students stated various lofty goals and altruistic statements the prof scribbled them down onto the blackboard. When we had exhausted all our ideas he stood in the middle of the room and looked over our statements and then stated "NO, you are ALL wrong!"

He walked back to the front of the room, turned to face us, and said:

"The first duty of every business is TO SURVIVE!"

He continued, "And the second duty of every business is to MAKE A PROFIT!"

"If you do not do these two things first, you will not be around long enough to do ANY of these other great and wonderous things you said!"

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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: Eric_Hill]
      #1664858 - 09/28/15 01:05 PM (24.113.141.159)

Very insightful topic and I hope an open rational discussion with lots of input and ideas will help clarify the multiple demographic and other issues relating to declining participation.

As a first comment by me, I see parallels with what is happening in established church membership. Are there common reasons? I am not sure. I do see, however, a better recognition of the "problem" among mainstream religions and a ramping up of their focus and effort to deal with this trend. Certainly well ahead of what the nudist/naturist community is doing to date.

I will be following this discussion and hope to add other insights (for lack of a better word) as things progress. Good work Eric, hope to run into you and Carol on the Club O beach someday. Toes in the sand Oct 13.


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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1664859 - 09/28/15 01:07 PM (69.138.217.199)

Good points Markis and Snorkeller... The FEAR of that happening would certainly be a deterrent to trying a nudest facility for the first time... That is why most venues have strict "no photography" policies...and enforce them...

My favorite example is the wooden board sign as you walk onto Club Orient's beach stating absolutely no photography! Scattered about on the face of the sign are several cameras that are nailed to the board by large spikes pounded through the lenses and out the backs of the cameras...

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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: Bill_S]
      #1664860 - 09/28/15 01:10 PM (68.247.239.225)

Hey, Bill, I think I would have gotten the professor's question right on the first try, as I would have said "the first duty of every business is to MAKE MONEY!!"

Interesting perspective by Bare (I think) that naturists are in general, cheap. That could be, I suppose. What also is interesting to me is that there are a lot of people throughout the world who enjoy nude or topless sunbathing, who have a pretty decent amount of money. Those folks I guess don't call themselves 'naturists', but prefer to say that they enjoy their 'privacy', by way of private villas or charter boats, etc. So, maybe that is the answer......... or not. That ignores the whole social side of naturism, which is a huge part of it--the total feeling of open comraderie which it seems one can only find at a naturist venue.


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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: ChunkyDunkin]
      #1664878 - 09/28/15 03:35 PM (69.138.217.199)

I agree with the analogy to mainstream religions ChunkyDunkin... I see the similar changes happening in our church here in MD...active engagement with new members, actively starting up new programs when newcomers identify an "I wish we...(had/did/could)" ...often putting the person wishing for something in charge of the new effort to make it happen and gathering other members together to help turn the wish into reality...

That's how groups grow and prosper!

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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1664879 - 09/28/15 03:43 PM (67.185.242.20)

As for "established church membership", all my naturist friends are regular church goers and take their faith very seriously. Most are Roman Catholics and not from an area that is mostly Catholic. In fact, I am the only non-religious one of the bunch.

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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: january]
      #1664883 - 09/28/15 04:12 PM (69.138.217.199)

Well, the first nudist resort was Eden...and that was before the fall...
(Genesis 2:25)

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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: Bill_S]
      #1664888 - 09/28/15 04:39 PM (67.185.242.20)

Yeah, but with such a small membership it was bound to go under.

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Re: Why are c/o resort failing and what can be done? [Re: january]
      #1664889 - 09/28/15 04:43 PM (69.138.217.199)

ROFLMAO... And it DID!

OK, we have drifted off topic...back to the subject at hand: keeping naturist venues viable and in business...

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