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Paul_Marion
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY]
      #1733335 - 05/20/17 02:34 PM (73.61.22.126)

Some are still around.

Our favorite nude beaches pack in the mid 80's:

Cupecoy

Orient and a same section.

Dawn

Happy Bay

Tintamarri

Mullet (small section far from parking)

Ilet Pinel

Friars (once in while)

Gallion

La Belle Creole

Crand Case (the end)

Bay Rouge (1/3rd)

Terres Bas (on the rite)


That's all I can remember........

Some are still OK to go nude !!!!!!!!!!

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Snorkeller
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: ruralcarrier]
      #1733344 - 05/20/17 04:25 PM (96.238.181.82)

I once ran down the local law with regard to nudity on the french-side. Maybe someone here could do that for the dutch-side, as opposed to mere speculation. As I understand it, Dutch law (as in the Netherlands) basically permits female topless bathing at any beach unless it is posted or otherwise made known that it is not permitted. Is simple female toplessness on Sint Maarten beaches or private property open to the public (like the bar at Sunset) illegal? Maybe someone can cite to a law that makes it illegal. Until I see such a law, I will believe that it is not illegal. Appropriate under specific circumstances? You can decide for yourself. Maybe I am wrong and I will give Neil a laugh, but I cannot imagine that Neil or anyone else paid any bribes to serve free drinks to topless women.

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Bobinmobile
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1733346 - 05/20/17 04:29 PM (190.185.61.26)

Was at Karakter's today. Two females and several males topless. No issues.

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StephKY
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: Bobinmobile]
      #1733369 - 05/20/17 08:34 PM (173.81.26.217)

Thanks everyone for the info!!!

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BobNLiz
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: PelicanPirate]
      #1733497 - 05/22/17 05:20 PM (74.119.86.70)

We have stayed at PH's and really enjoyed it... Very modern, clean and I enjoyed the Central Air. Nive views. Only negative if I recall correctly is there is no elevator.. We were on the third floor and had to climb.. Not so bad really

Liz


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weeks5051
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: StephKY]
      #1733509 - 05/22/17 07:45 PM (72.80.127.165)

I have seen at least one topless woman on every Beach I've gone to on both sides of the island. I haven't been to every beach but on Dawn I've seen a topless woman once in a while, usually away from the crowd though.

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SXMScubaman
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: weeks5051]
      #1733513 - 05/22/17 08:12 PM (201.220.7.58)

Tourist always push the envelope when they really should respect local laws and customs. That's all I got to say about this.

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Snorkeller
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: SXMScubaman]
      #1733537 - 05/23/17 10:24 AM (108.4.113.218)

That's fine to say, but tourists have no reason to believe that simple female toplessness on beaches on the dutch-side is illegal. I do not believe it is illegal, but I could be wrong and am willing to stand corrected if someone can point me to a "law."

With specific regard to Dawn, at least pre-Luis (a way I can remember the time period) topless was very common on Dawn - there were very few cruisers going there many if not most of tourists were European. Has the written law (that's positive law for you pre-law folks) changed since then? I doubt it. Has the vibe and what is common changed - sure.

(On the french-side, the written law did change in January 2006 with regard to nudity - but not as to toplessness, which always has been acceptable on all beaches on the french-side as a matter of law - but even on french-side an establishment can post a "No Topless" rule for its property, probably including an area of concessionaire rights, and have the right to have it enforced.)

Sorry, but it bothers me to see people making statements about the law who just are expressing personal opinions and do not really know what the law is. If you do not believe a woman should sunbath topless on certain beaches on dutch-side, you certainly are entitled to your opinion - but, I do not think it has anything to do with respect or lack of respect for local laws.


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marge
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1733548 - 05/23/17 11:51 AM (108.7.146.66)

Not so much ... "it has anything to do with respect or lack of respect for local laws".....as respect for local customs. The Dutch side is/was much more "conservative" than the French. I think of it as someone walking down the main street of their hometown in a bikini. Is it illegal? Probably not, but I'd bet it is not culturally accepted.
I have no law degree, but my personal opinion is that one must be respectful of the local culture. We are, after all, guests.

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GaKaye
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Re: Topless on Dawn beach?? [Re: marge]
      #1733550 - 05/23/17 12:00 PM (174.193.152.69)

Quote:

marge said:
... one must be respectful of the local culture. We are, after all, guests.




Exactly.


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