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Mantas
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Re: Someone died? [Re: LBI2SXM]
      #1738517 - 07/13/17 04:43 PM (69.14.59.5)

I think if they put up some sort of barrier the crowds (and $$$) would still come into the area for the landings alone.

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SXMDeepBleu
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Re: Someone died? [Re: o2bnsxm]
      #1738518 - 07/13/17 04:47 PM (47.157.93.134)

For a fully dressed person flying and exchanging planes and such is fairly safe of course. However you don't see Airport/tarmac employees wearing a bikini or board shorts no shirt and flip flops, they are wearing full jumpsuits, boots and gloves.
Its shown that the blast can kill almost instantly, but what about later down the road when something arises with you that is possibly related to exposure. This was my point.

Just consider yourself for a moment, half naked in a bathing suit in the sun with a heat index of 90, and a little glistening of perspiration and lathered with another chemical (sunscreen of course) that makes anything stick to your skin and stay there.
Your pores and eyes and nasal passages and your lungs are open and susceptible to the jet wash, a steam vapor is created which forms a mist carrying chemical cocktails that can't help but stick to you also. carbon and micro debris from rubber on the tarmac come at you at break neck speed...
I guess we could always check with a Respiratory specialist or Dermatologist and ask them on the health risks, but I would want to lay bets on their response beforehand.


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pat
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Re: Someone died?/Maho Jet Blast [Re: blackmercedes]
      #1738521 - 07/13/17 04:57 PM (75.133.113.202)

Yes, sad but true. As far as stopping the practice of fence flying, I don't think it's gonna' happen - you just can't fix stupid. And it's not like you can build a fence or a wall there. This was a people draw forty years ago but I don't ever remember seeing people hanging off the fence back in the day.......not to say it didn't happen.

Do you think maybe this thread has gone far enough astray to close it down? Just MHO.......

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Re: Someone died?/Maho Jet Blast [Re: pat]
      #1738523 - 07/13/17 05:13 PM (68.147.77.222)

Perhaps an electric fence ....people would still try to do their thing. What amazes us is when a mother, father and a couple of young kids say 12 or 14 do it together. It probably generates a lot of business for doctors on island when people get sand particles etc. in their eye.

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SXMDeepBleu
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Re: Someone died?/Maho Jet Blast [Re: mmk]
      #1738524 - 07/13/17 05:19 PM (47.157.93.134)

Google: "Airport blast fence", intended for this very thing. It is a money and publicity generating anomaly for the island, hence the new amount of tours from cruise port to the site. No way will it ever be corrected.

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LBI2SXM
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Re: Someone died?/Maho Jet Blast [Re: SXMDeepBleu]
      #1738527 - 07/13/17 05:32 PM (73.112.165.173)

Saw a documentary a while back and it showed the jet blast rolling over a school bus.

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Re: Someone died? [Re: Bobcat]
      #1738528 - 07/13/17 05:38 PM (72.80.127.165)

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Bobcat said:
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weeks5051 said:
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boucharda said:
After managing an Emergency Department for MANY years I realized there can only be so much done to protect people from themselves.

Tragic event and different but similar situations occur every day everywhere



Very True. Yearly on average in the U.S. there are 20 deaths from skydiving, 90 deaths worldwide from scuba diving, and over 700 cycling deaths in the U.S. Should we try to stop people from doing these dangerous activities too?




Apples and oranges - while dangerous these activities in the hands of those trained and experienced reduce the risks - standing at the fence at Maho is simply dangerous and foolish and requires no special skill - observing the warning signs seems easy enough to me.



I disagree. Many cyclists are killed and they have no training. As a matter of fact most of those killed have no training whatsoever. The same thing goes for swimmers at a beach without lifeguards. It's a tourist attraction for a reason. All thrill experiences have an element of danger otherwise it wouldn't be a thrill. And as far as scuba divers and sky divers are concerned, even with their special training, some still die. So it IS apples and apples.


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Re: Someone died? [Re: weeks5051]
      #1738529 - 07/13/17 05:47 PM (100.38.184.167)

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weeks5051 said:
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Bobcat said:
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weeks5051 said:
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boucharda said:
After managing an Emergency Department for MANY years I realized there can only be so much done to protect people from themselves.

Tragic event and different but similar situations occur every day everywhere



Very True. Yearly on average in the U.S. there are 20 deaths from skydiving, 90 deaths worldwide from scuba diving, and over 700 cycling deaths in the U.S. Should we try to stop people from doing these dangerous activities too?




Apples and oranges - while dangerous these activities in the hands of those trained and experienced reduce the risks - standing at the fence at Maho is simply dangerous and foolish and requires no special skill - observing the warning signs seems easy enough to me.



I disagree. Many cyclists are killed and they have no training. As a matter of fact most of those killed have no training whatsoever. The same thing goes for swimmers at a beach without lifeguards. It's a tourist attraction for a reason. All thrill experiences have an element of danger otherwise it wouldn't be a thrill. And as far as scuba divers and sky divers are concerned, even with their special training, some still die. So it IS apples and apples.




Cyclists do have a certain skill level, people standing at a fence do not require any - nice try...

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o2bnsxm
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Re: Someone died? [Re: Bobcat]
      #1738535 - 07/13/17 06:25 PM (65.13.175.190)

Again, I have to repeat my earlier post, that after all this time, and all the people who have participated, this was the first fatality.
Not saying anything good or bad, but what other activity has less fatalities than fence grabbing at Maho?
I've been going to SXM for almost 15 years, and have never done it. Won't start now.
This tragic death will not prevent people from doing it, perhaps it is the "Can't happen to me" syndrome.

Edited by o2bnsxm (07/13/17 06:26 PM)


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Re: Someone died? [Re: o2bnsxm]
      #1738537 - 07/13/17 06:31 PM (100.38.184.167)

We go back 28 years and yes, this is the first to my memory but even one death is one too many. Story is on NBC news as I write this.

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