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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1750258 - 10/25/17 04:13 PM (73.255.141.246)

OK. Riot is correct. God help Sint Maarten.

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: moxie]
      #1750259 - 10/25/17 04:17 PM (107.1.119.41)

This is not "negotiating". He is sitting at a table by himself. This is called "posturing". The Netherlands holds all of the cards, every single one. Again, the PM can express real or feigned outrage, but at the end of the day, he will do what the Netherlands requires, or there will be no money.

Autonomy and independence are two way streets. Without getting too political, a number of the affected islands have the same issue, including Anguilla. You want to be "independent"? No problem. That means you are on your own, with aid a purely private matter. If I exercise no control over you, then I owe you nothing.


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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: thebowl]
      #1750265 - 10/25/17 04:55 PM (142.165.85.188)

Correct on all counts.

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: thebowl]
      #1750267 - 10/25/17 05:02 PM (97.96.31.128)

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Most of the St. Maarten politicians are in it only for themselves. Not all of them, but for sure most of them. It is about time for their constituents to demand they do what they were elected to do--and that is take care of St. Maarten residents. I can't for the life of me imagine why the same bunch of thieves who have lied to them in the past over and over keep being elected.

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: PrairieGirl]
      #1750268 - 10/25/17 05:02 PM (136.28.35.128)

But Theo is already riling up the people now.
Marlin needs to get over himself.


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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1750315 - 10/26/17 09:53 AM (73.255.141.246)

Not that anything will change in Marlin's position, but there is supposed to be a meeting of Parliament at 4 PM today to discuss this matter.

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1750319 - 10/26/17 10:07 AM (107.1.119.41)

I will not pretend to be at all familiar with the form of government in Sint Maarten. That said, if there is a Parliament, and if he is a Prime Minister, it sure sounds like some form of Parliamentary government. If that is the case, the Parliament usually has the power to remove a Prime Minister by a vote of "no confidence". Does anyone here know if that is actually the case?

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: thebowl]
      #1750321 - 10/26/17 10:20 AM (108.4.118.232)

Yes - a basic parliamentary system.

On a vote of no confidence the Prime Minister "shall resign."

Or, if you could put together enough votes - probably require a supermajority - the Prime Minister probably could be dismissed.

I suppose it possible that this is a big enough deal that Marlin's government could fall - I will believe it when I see it.


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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1750322 - 10/26/17 10:27 AM (174.193.129.81)

Doesn't the government there fall fairly frequently? I seem to recall reading about that on multiple occasions.

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1750323 - 10/26/17 11:22 AM (73.255.141.246)

For those interested, the parliament meeting is supposed to be carried live on www.pearlfmradio.sx and www.sxmparliament.org There is some kind of a session going on now, but the session about the Dutch aid is supposed to be 4 PM today.

And yes, the SXM government has fallen many times, but I would doubt it in this situation.


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