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SXMBND
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: BGH]
      #1750502 - 10/28/17 11:00 AM (65.96.96.4)

The Islands Govt. corruption has been well documented...... they don't sign the deal as is......no $$$$. Where is the SXM $$$ for the rebuild???

Edited by SXMBND (10/28/17 11:02 AM)


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bksm
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: BGH]
      #1750512 - 10/28/17 12:51 PM (47.197.21.5)

Does anyone know what Marlin's problem is with the Integrity Chamber and/or the better border control?

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: bksm]
      #1750516 - 10/28/17 02:13 PM (107.77.253.5)

My understanding is that he feels it is a violation of SXM's independent status as a country. .....meanwhile, there will be no country left, as a result of his hubris..

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1750517 - 10/28/17 02:25 PM (24.102.161.71)

this government is very corrupt... Many residents are aware of this. Marlin has taken money from investers, and put it in his pocket...this is what I have been told. Why this continues??? Not sure... It kind of reminds me of Puerto rico, they want to be independent, but want the U.S. to pour money in... Hope this does not offend anyone, but this is a reality... Your either independent or not... St.M. with this government can not survive... Marlin should give up all the money he received from Chinese investers to rebuild the Island My opinion, and that of many that live on Island

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: sasasal]
      #1750522 - 10/28/17 04:35 PM (99.231.122.10)

Strong statements and a common thread on this site . Where is the money trail ?

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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: sasasal]
      #1750538 - 10/29/17 10:26 AM (174.216.18.0)

Quote:

sasasal said:
this government is very corrupt... Many residents are aware of this. Marlin has taken money from investers, and put it in his pocket...this is what I have been told. Why this continues??? Not sure... It kind of reminds me of Puerto rico, they want to be independent, but want the U.S. to pour money in... Hope this does not offend anyone, but this is a reality... Your either independent or not... St.M. with this government can not survive... Marlin should give up all the money he received from Chinese investers to rebuild the Island My opinion, and that of many that live on Island



Lots of allegations. Where is the documented proof?


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SXMBND
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: SXMScubaman]
      #1750539 - 10/29/17 10:53 AM (65.96.96.4)

Interesting facts and probable motivation for the Dutch Govt. insistence to rules regarding the bailout $$$$

From Wikipedia:

"Debt

On November 2, 2006, the Dutch government set aside 65 million guilders (NAF) to pay off St. Maarten's debts. The Dutch portion of the island became a country within the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 2010. While this was beneficial in some ways, the decision has shifted more responsibilities over to the island and with those, more debt.[5] Since St. Maarten became an autonomous country in 2010, it has never had a balanced budget and it has accumulated a debt of 200 million guilders (NAF) according to a statement by the Minister of Finance in December 2015.[20][21]"

This is a country of less than 40,000 citizens........do the math folks.

Edited by SXMBND (10/29/17 10:55 AM)


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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: SXMBND]
      #1750544 - 10/29/17 12:13 PM (67.171.251.248)

Doing the math- updated with new starting numbers
200,000,000 NAF divided by 40,000 people = 5000 NAF per person.
5000 NAF per person equals about $2850 USD.

In the US our national debt is about $60,000 per person.
That equals about $106,0000 in NAF.

If the SXM debt was at the same rate as here in the US per person then they would be at $4,240,000,000 NAF or about $2,400,000,000 USD.

Spin this what ever way you want and have a great morning. Feel free to correct any math errors, still early here on the West Coast.
Cheers,
Todd

Edited by Todd (10/29/17 01:47 PM)


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SXMBND
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Todd]
      #1750549 - 10/29/17 02:37 PM (65.96.96.4)

Quote:

Todd said:
Doing the math- updated with new starting numbers
200,000,000 NAF divided by 40,000 people = 5000 NAF per person.
5000 NAF per person equals about $2850 USD.

In the US our national debt is about $60,000 per person.
That equals about $106,0000 in NAF.

If the SXM debt was at the same rate as here in the US per person then they would be at $4,240,000,000 NAF or about $2,400,000,000 USD.

Spin this what ever way you want and have a great morning. Feel free to correct any math errors, still early here on the West Coast.
Cheers,
Todd




There was no intent to make a comparison between a country of 250+ million people.....1/2 of which pay no taxes, and are taken care of cradle to grave by the government and a COUNTRYwith a population (~40K) that would be representative in size of a small U.S CITY. That comparison would be foolish.
A couple a hundred Million $$$$ are generated yearly as a direct result of tourism taxes alone, T/S.....airport, cruise ships. They obviously don't spend diddly on infrastructure,military or entitlements......so tell us where the money goes????

Edited by SXMBND (10/29/17 02:38 PM)


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sasasal
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: SXMBND]
      #1750551 - 10/29/17 03:16 PM (24.102.161.71)

Take a look at the roads!!!Nothing ever done to repair. Very dangerous . we have been going to sxm for many years, and have heard that anyone that want to start a business on Island, just has to shell our money to government officials. This is going on for years... Hand over the cash and things get done. Proof???? Everyone that lives on Island knows how crooked this government is... They put cash in there pocket, and the Island gets nothing done... marlin is a crooked . Period...

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