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sasasal
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: SXMScubaman]
      #1750552 - 10/29/17 03:19 PM (24.102.161.71)

Sometimes you do not need documented proof. Do you really think government can not hide things????? This is an Island, who has the power to get real proof... The proof is in the aligations from many people over the years... Ask the residents what they think!!! Not ttol people..

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jmbcomms
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: BGH]
      #1750555 - 10/29/17 05:09 PM (73.167.75.90)

Everyone except the Dutch Side government "gets" it.

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Jeff Berger
Visiting SXM Since 1978


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Todd
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: SXMBND]
      #1750556 - 10/29/17 05:09 PM (67.171.251.248)

I just did the math and added a comparison for reference, I could have used Canada or France which is about half of what the US is but easier to relate to where most of us live. I think Netherlands per person debt is about $38k in USD but a bit more difficult to be sure of. Not political, not saying anything is right, just did math as requested with the info given with a slightly researched reference point.
Cheers,
T


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ARC
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: SXMBND]
      #1750574 - 10/29/17 09:50 PM (99.59.208.130)

Quote:

SXMBND said:
Quote:

Todd said:
Doing the math- updated with new starting numbers
200,000,000 NAF divided by 40,000 people = 5000 NAF per person.
5000 NAF per person equals about $2850 USD.


In the US our national debt is about $60,000 per person.
That equals about $106,0000 in NAF.

If the SXM debt was at the same rate as here in the US per person then they would be at $4,240,000,000 NAF or about $2,400,000,000 USD.

Spin this what ever way you want and have a great morning. Feel free to correct any math errors, still early here on the West Coast.
Cheers,
Todd




There was no intent to make a comparison between a country of 250+ million people.....1/2 of which pay no taxes, and are taken care of cradle to grave by the government and a COUNTRYwith a population (~40K) that would be representative in size of a small U.S CITY. That comparison would be foolish.
A couple a hundred Million $$$$ are generated yearly as a direct result of tourism taxes alone, T/S.....airport, cruise ships. They obviously don't spend diddly on infrastructure,military or entitlements......so tell us where the money goes????




Sounds like a typical west coast train of thought! Nice comeback SXMBND, very true!


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AUCspouse
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: ARC]
      #1750590 - 10/30/17 06:52 AM (72.169.80.216)

Todd,
I, for one, appreciate your math. Thanks.


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thebowl
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: AUCspouse]
      #1750594 - 10/30/17 08:40 AM (107.1.119.41)

Me too. Facts can be your friend, if you let them.

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BlueGreenWater
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: sasasal]
      #1750625 - 10/30/17 01:29 PM (108.44.146.192)

Quote:

sasasal said:
Sometimes you do not need documented proof. Do you really think government can not hide things????? This is an Island, who has the power to get real proof... The proof is in the aligations from many people over the years... Ask the residents what they think!!! Not ttol people..




"Sometimes you do not need documented proof....The proof is in the aligations..."

Ummm, no.



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Snorkeller
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1750637 - 10/30/17 05:24 PM (108.4.118.232)

Looks like Sarah and Theo have pulled Chanel Brownbill away from USP/NA. So, DP, UPP, and Brownbill are 8 MPS - which is a majority of 15 MPS total. If Brownbill can withstand pressure and hold his ground, looks like Sarah may be PM again and aid with conditions will happen. No idea how fast they can get Marlin out and new government in place - if in fact they have at least the 8 MPs. Dutch certainly have no reason to do anything other than wait for new government and agreement to conditions.

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Carol_HillAdministrator
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1750642 - 10/30/17 06:38 PM (107.77.253.5)

I saw that in the DH today about Brownbill. Doing what needs to be done, hopefully.

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moxie
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Re: Dutch government firm on conditions [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1750643 - 10/30/17 06:42 PM (67.70.127.140)

I was so hoping that this would happen-lets keep our fingers crossed.

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