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charlieh
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Carol's Polls
      #1592213 - 06/01/14 02:24 PM (67.232.31.137)

Don't ever remember seeing polls on TTOL before. I post on a college message board where polls can be created, and they can definitely be interesting.

I, for one, think this is a nice addition to TTOL, and they can be useful. Also I hope this encourages more people to register.


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592226 - 06/01/14 03:16 PM (72.61.37.28)

We haven't done any in a while. Glad you are enjoying them.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592233 - 06/01/14 03:50 PM (32.216.144.35)

That was fun!

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592240 - 06/01/14 04:24 PM (96.253.198.198)

Nice that only registered people can vote... Not at all fair. What makes there opinions better is beyond me.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592245 - 06/01/14 04:48 PM (72.61.37.28)

Because there is no other way to make sure someone doesn't vote more than once. And we are the ONLY forum that I know of that allows unregistered people to even participate at all. Register. It doesn't hurt.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592276 - 06/01/14 06:49 PM (69.133.43.72)

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Nice that only registered people can vote... Not at all fair. What makes there opinions better is beyond me.




Not fair? The OWNERS of the board make the decisions. Unlike CLOSED GROUP pages, anonymous people CAN and DO read here and can usually make a post, just like you did.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592289 - 06/01/14 08:48 PM (67.232.31.137)

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Nice that only registered people can vote... Not at all fair. What makes there opinions better is beyond me.




Anon - please do us a favor and reference any other forums/message boards where you can post without being registered. I have well over 30,000 posts in the message board world and TTOL is the ONLY board I've visited that does not require registration - which I think is a weak point, but my vote does not count.


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592297 - 06/01/14 10:04 PM (216.211.119.237)

I have always hated the fact you could comment without being a member.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592313 - 06/02/14 05:06 AM (96.253.198.198)

Why is being registered make anything you say more valuable than unregisterd? Not sure what the all the negatives about this issue. I believe I have as much if not more info and opinions than lots of registered people. Especially those that vacation once a year, as opposed to us who spend months on Island and have been for many years. The only people that have perhaps more than us, is those that live on Island. But a vacation for a week or two does not make you better... That's my opinion.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592314 - 06/02/14 05:29 AM (69.133.43.72)

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Why is being registered make anything you say more valuable than unregisterd? Not sure what the all the negatives about this issue. I believe I have as much if not more info and opinions than lots of registered people. Especially those that vacation once a year, as opposed to us who spend months on Island and have been for many years. The only people that have perhaps more than us, is those that live on Island. But a vacation for a week or two does not make you better... That's my opinion.




I don't know that anyone implied or indicated an anon opinion was more or less valuable than a registered opinion. As charlieh indicated, MOST other boards (of any and all types) require registration, some even to just read.

I happen to be a member of a couple of other types of message boards and they all require registration to post. One board just recently went to "registration required" to post and the screaming prior to the change was loud. The reason for going to a registration requirement was due to anon posters using multiple names, using IP masking programs and totally uncalled for personal attacks. The owner of the forum made the decision to require registration and guess what?? No personal attacks and the discussions are back to the topics of interest.

Totally a personal choice as to wheter to register or not but it does have "benefits".

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: ruralcarrier]
      #1592321 - 06/02/14 06:12 AM (96.253.198.198)

Perhaps that so!!! But on the other hand, I feel people on this board that are registerd try to sugar coat some issues, because of the fact everyone gets to know each other. I have no personal interest to down St.M. as I own property there, but I will always tell it like it is. I do notice that some issues on Island somehow do not want to be discussed or at least in debt. There is negative and positive all over. So again!!! Some on this board are lets see!!! Whats the word?? kissing up... Ok well we all have seen and been through the changes on Island, good or bad. I still believe that those that spend a once a year vacation are no better equipped to speak on matters even if they are registerd. I would rather here from people that spend lots of time or own, and value there opinions... That is unless its about a restaurant favorite, which is an easy topic...

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592323 - 06/02/14 06:28 AM (32.216.68.135)

Over the years I've never really had an issue with 'anon' posters, since, by the terms of the forum, their opinions and comments were allowed, and I've even gone to the point of defending them on occasion.

But a few weeks ago I happened upon a particularly vile and disgusting personal attack made here by an anonymous poster and that made me change my mind completely.

Anons are still welcome to read here and I would imagine they could probably sign up with a semi-anonymous persona known only to themselves and the moderators, though I don't know this as fact. If you take a look at the bios of many of the registered posters, they're pretty anonymous as it is, but because of their registration they are at the very least, known to the mods.

Bottom line, folks, it was the anon posters, certainly the few and not the majority of anons, for sure, who brought this change upon everyone.

Time will tell if it's a good move or not, but personally speaking, I support the action and having read what I saw posted, my only question is why did it take so long?

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: pat]
      #1592328 - 06/02/14 06:51 AM (69.133.43.72)

Thanks pat!

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592331 - 06/02/14 06:57 AM (70.211.210.108)

Carol explained very clearly why only registered members can vote in the polls; it has nothing at all to do with the value of their opinions, but is because there is no other way to limit a poster to only one vote.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592332 - 06/02/14 07:02 AM (69.133.43.72)

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I feel people on this board that are registerd try to sugar coat some issues,




It works both ways. You will also get an unregistered (possibly even a business owner or an associate) and they will make false posts under the pretense of promoting their own place. Self-promotion and "shilling" are not tolerated, registered or not.

I do not sugar coat things and have taken heat myself for having a negative opinion of places favored by others.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: ruralcarrier]
      #1592337 - 06/02/14 07:54 AM (96.253.198.198)

Theres the good and bad in everything and people. I for one. Can at any time Pat, come to a ttol gathering, as for the most part, We are on Island... And there ya go. You can not have a ttol gathering unless people know each other... So yes!!! there are those that stay in the background, but lots that come from different places that get to know each others names and converse personally. That's fine... I think I will register, so that finally I can be respected, which is sad, given some of the input that has no value from some registered folks... Oh well.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592344 - 06/02/14 08:36 AM (88.214.181.128)

It seems in general the anon postings represent some of the best and some of the worst.

At best, posters have greater than average knowledge of the Island and on measure the information can be quite valuable. But for the anonymity these posts might not be available. On the other end are the inevitable trolls..

Registered posters occupy a similar degree of reliability, from up to the minute observations to out of date inaccurate information which does more harm than good. All are worth reading, and over time one can get a sense of what might be reliable.

Best option is to factor in the recommended and best to avoid, and make some new discoveries!


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592363 - 06/02/14 09:51 AM (71.232.156.212)

What possible reason would someone have to *not* register?

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: jenniboston]
      #1592368 - 06/02/14 10:06 AM (96.253.198.198)

Perhaps so they can speak without bias, or worrying about not going along with the crowd? not all but most know each other on this message board, so not all, but may have to stay popular. Either way, register or not, whats the difference as Hilary would say...

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1592370 - 06/02/14 10:16 AM (71.101.35.187)

Just because you're registered, there is no way anyone would know who you are, unless YOU reveal information about yourself. All it takes is an email address, which email address is not known to anyone other than admins, unless YOU make it public. The reason to register at this point is to be able to participate in this board, period.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592393 - 06/02/14 11:38 AM (96.253.198.198)

ok...

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592409 - 06/02/14 12:19 PM (4.79.200.34)

Carol, this was a great idea and alot of fun. I can only imagine how many glasse of wine needed to come up with them all!

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592414 - 06/02/14 12:33 PM (67.232.31.137)

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Carol_Hill said:
Just because you're registered, there is no way anyone would know who you are, unless YOU reveal information about yourself. All it takes is an email address, which email address is not known to anyone other than admins, unless YOU make it public. The reason to register at this point is to be able to participate in this board, period.




This is absolutely correct. Your posting name can have nothing to do with anything related to SXM. One big benefit of registering is being able to do PMs if you are REALLY interested in the island.

I've met a grand total of 2 TTOL posters and in both cases the meetings were in the US.

Make up a posting name like tipunchfan and no one will ever know who you are. You have absolutely nothing to lose and plenty of options to gain.


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592418 - 06/02/14 12:43 PM (71.101.35.187)

charlie--in your circumstance, you have a picture of yourself, so people on island THEORETICALLY might be able to recognize you. But, that is totally voluntary. There is no requirement to fill in anything on the profile or anywhere else. Literally the ONLY information one has to provide is an email address. And that is only known to admins, not to anyone on the board, unless YOU put it in your profile.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592421 - 06/02/14 12:56 PM (67.232.31.137)

Carol - my picture is in place so that people will feel sorry for me.

Obviously it isn't too hard to have multiple email addresses. I have 4 that I use for various reasons and of course, they are all free.


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592446 - 06/02/14 03:42 PM (108.4.121.156)

Hey, if you want people to feel sorry for you, just remind them that you are a Tar Heels fan....

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Snorkeller]
      #1592460 - 06/02/14 04:34 PM (67.232.31.137)

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Snorkeller said:
Hey, if you want people to feel sorry for you, just remind them that you are a Tar Heels fan....




LOL - good memory. However my daughter did go to UVA to make up for my shortcomings.


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: pat]
      #1592474 - 06/02/14 05:00 PM (74.221.72.246)

I think I read the post that you speak of and I had the same reaction, but I have read a lot of anon posts that have helped me about things on the island. We will be heading there in a little over two weeks and the polls as well as the posts still help when we decide what to do and what to take. There might come a time when it might be decided to not allow them, but as with us who are registered, if we all behave we will reap the rewards of a very nice discussion of SXM and things there. If not we should lose our right to post.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: pat]
      #1592514 - 06/02/14 08:55 PM (70.50.113.52)

Pat, that post was a vile attack....

Even though most times I post without being signed in I always post my name & Canadian flag....it is only fair when using a public forum to identify oneself.....kate

Edited by KATEONTARIO77 (06/02/14 08:57 PM)


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: KATEONTARIO77]
      #1592526 - 06/02/14 09:54 PM (67.232.31.137)

Kate - you are a very rare exception to an anon poster, as everyone knows who you are. I just looked and there are currently 36 registered posters and 82 anon posters.

The biggest downside to being a registered poster is forgetting your password whenever it may be needed. However I almost never have to sign in as it is pretty much automatic.

Anons who live on the island can be hugely helpful, and I think even more so if they are registered.


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592532 - 06/02/14 10:36 PM (72.61.37.28)

No, it is not pretty much automatic, it IS automatic. All you have to do is click the box that says "remember me" and you will be automatically logged in any time you come to the board. And regardless, any time you are logged in, you can go in and change your password and WRITE IT DOWN, so there is no possibility of not knowing what it is...

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592538 - 06/02/14 11:33 PM (67.232.31.137)

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Carol_Hill said:
No, it is not pretty much automatic, it IS automatic. All you have to do is click the box that says "remember me" and you will be automatically logged in any time you come to the board. And regardless, any time you are logged in, you can go in and change your password and WRITE IT DOWN, so there is no possibility of not knowing what it is...




Sounds right. I post on a lot of message boards and some are easier to deal with concerning passwords than others. I can't remember the last time I had to sign in here, so I agree with Carol on this.

For those of you who think there is ANY possible downside in registering - would like to have your reasons why.


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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: charlieh]
      #1592539 - 06/03/14 12:55 AM (72.78.206.213)

If you delete your cookies, which most do occasionally, all you have to do is double-click on the sign-in block, and you'll be signed in.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592656 - 06/03/14 06:24 PM (208.87.107.68)

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Carol_Hill said:
Just because you're registered, there is no way anyone would know who you are, unless YOU reveal information about yourself. All it takes is an email address, which email address is not known to anyone other than admins, unless YOU make it public. The reason to register at this point is to be able to participate in this board, period.




Yeah, I agree with this. For the first many years on this board, no one knew who I was. As time went on and I got more into social media things, I found I wanted to actually meet some of the people I met on the board. So now, just a few people know my real identity. But it's totally possible to register and still be anonymous! It's all about what you choose to reveal.

BTW Carol, loved the polls.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Angelface]
      #1592678 - 06/03/14 08:13 PM (67.232.31.137)

Meeting people with similar interests tends to always be fun, and the internet certainly can help facilitate that. I've met over 1,000 people and actually had dinner and drinks with them via the college internet world - people from 10 different universities from Miami (Florida) to Arizona to Illinois and Maryland. Most of the folks are UNC and Kansas fans, but it you try, you can really reach out.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1592739 - 06/04/14 08:38 AM (24.185.152.92)

Carol, thank you for posting the polls. I waited awhile to allow votes to accumulate and took the opportunity to review the votes and read the comments this morning. The comments were very interesting, especially the section on 'how long have you been coming.' This was a great idea and I hope more people will vote over the coming months and/or add their input to the posts.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: NJHarry]
      #1592747 - 06/04/14 09:13 AM (71.101.35.187)

As I said in the other thread, at some point I think I will put the polls in a separate forum, as after a couple of months, they will fall way down the forum, unless there are new responses.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: pat]
      #1593063 - 06/05/14 12:18 PM (96.253.198.198)

Gee pat, I guess this makes you happy. I think any bias is bias. that said the decision is made... Yes there will be people that post poorly, but so can registered people... Remember.... You posts have no more bearing than someone that did not register, in fact!!!! Its all about your experience. and how you see things... Means nothing in the real world of St.M.

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Re: Carol's Polls [Re: Anonymous]
      #1593065 - 06/05/14 12:30 PM (71.101.35.187)

Anon--No one said anything about anyone's opinion being any more valuable than anyone else's. If there was anything that prevented you from registering, then your gripe might have some credence. As it is, if you'd like to participate here, register.

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