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DenitaLC
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: Anonymous]
      #1187191 - 07/30/10 11:50 AM (76.22.95.24)

8:00 AM PST this morning I received another soliciting call from Caliente. AGAIN, I told the guy that I don't like their direction and to take me off their calling list.
He said that "they highly discourage the meatmarket mentality". Yeah, right!


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RichardKenner
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: DenitaLC]
      #1187326 - 07/30/10 05:54 PM (205.232.38.48)

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DenitaLC said:
AGAIN, I told the guy that I don't like their direction and to take me off their calling list.



I wonder how many responses like that they're getting.


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DenitaLC
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: RichardKenner]
      #1187342 - 07/30/10 06:43 PM (76.22.95.24)

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RichardKenner said:
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DenitaLC said:
AGAIN, I told the guy that I don't like their direction and to take me off their calling list.



I wonder how many responses like that they're getting.




Hopefully A LOT!


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arehouse
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: DenitaLC]
      #1187404 - 07/30/10 10:21 PM (24.189.190.14)

I told them the same thing when they called last week...

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tiger79
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: DenitaLC]
      #1187432 - 07/31/10 04:18 AM (86.133.96.8)

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DenitaLC said:He said that "they highly discourage the meatmarket mentality". Yeah, right!




I find it odd that a telesales guy would use a phrase like that. However, Caliente's sales people aren't, in my experience, very sophisticated. We had a "vacation club" presentation whilst at Caliente Caribe this year, and it was the worst sales pitch I've ever experienced!


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DenitaLC
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: tiger79]
      #1187519 - 07/31/10 12:09 PM (76.22.95.24)

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tiger79 said:
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DenitaLC said:He said that "they highly discourage the meatmarket mentality". Yeah, right!




I find it odd that a telesales guy would use a phrase like that. However, Caliente's sales people aren't, in my experience, very sophisticated. We had a "vacation club" presentation whilst at Caliente Caribe this year, and it was the worst sales pitch I've ever experienced!




I know Tiger, I found his choice of words a bit strange myself!


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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: DenitaLC]
      #1187654 - 07/31/10 08:16 PM (173.65.157.120)

AZCowboy asked for proof of a connection between the new Skinny Dip Sundae events and swinger promotions.

This link from 06-18-2010 is an example of "someone" semi-officially involved in promoting the Sunday clothing-allowed events. What starts as an explicit description of a single swinger's experience at Caliente becomes an open invitation for more single males to come and enjoy this event where "we suspend the rules".

My apologies for the explicit sexual language on this link, but this of course is part of the problem. The post appears on a swinger's discussion board, and becomes a blatant invitation for more of such activity in the context of visiting the Sunday events.

I've noticed a pattern of behind the scenes promotion of Caliente by third and fourth parties. Who can say whether they are being paid or otherwise compensated by Caliente management. And does anyone know who "JC n Syn" might be?

WARNING! Extremely explicit language.
http://www.swingersboard.com/forums/swin...sort-tampa.html

If this link is removed by the moderators, perhaps they'll let remain this instruction. Search Google for "Recent experience at Caliente Resort Tampa" with the quotes.


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RichardKenner
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: Anonymous]
      #1187676 - 07/31/10 10:02 PM (216.220.101.138)

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Anonymous said:
I've noticed a pattern of behind the scenes promotion of Caliente by third and fourth parties. Who can say whether they are being paid or otherwise compensated by Caliente management.



My understanding (but I don't know this for certain) is that the relationship is much the same as when promoters promote any party in a club venue (e.g., non-nudist and non-lifestyle): there are various profit-sharing relationships between the promoters and the club.


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AZCowboy
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: RichardKenner]
      #1188293 - 08/02/10 06:46 PM (24.99.254.27)

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AZCowboy asked for proof of a connection between the new Skinny Dip Sundae events and swinger promotions.



So this "someone" is semi-official? Paid? Are you sure? Couldn't they simply be a member of Caliente, and as a swinger, interested in meeting other like-minded people?

The "rule" they are talking about suspending is the "nude only" in the pool rule. I think we had established that rule-breaking already...

But no need trying to dissect the marketing any longer, it appears that Skinny Dip Sundae has its own website now (to minimize exercising your sub-woofer, find the "pause" button in the top right corner of the mainpage).

Nearly two weeks ago when I first posted in this thread, a "Skinny Dip Sundae" google search yielded only one relevant link. Now it returns 39,900 results. Add the word "swingers", and it nets down to 7. One of them was this thread. One of the other links happened to be the link you posted.

Color me unimpressed.

Edited by AZCowboy (08/02/10 06:49 PM)


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RichardKenner
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Re: Just returned from Tampa Caliente [Re: AZCowboy]
      #1188318 - 08/02/10 07:37 PM (173.12.126.234)

I think you're missing the point. It's not so much "is there a connection between Skinny Dip Sundae events and swingers promotions", but how and to what extent the resort is being marketed. Is it being marketted mostly to nudists or mostly to people who aren't nudists? There's no problem in doing some "outreach" marketing to people who aren't currently nudists in the hope of "converting" some, but, if they want to view themselves primarily as a nudist resort, they should be mostly marketing to nudists. But they aren't. Indeed, they've alienated all the major nudists and naturist organizations and can't market using them anymore.

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