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Carnival Triumph without propulsion power
      #1478993 - 02/11/13 10:54 AM (71.101.41.196)

After suffering an engine fire, Carnival Triumph is dead in the water and will have to be towed to port. Another black eye for Carnival..

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1479815 - 02/12/13 09:49 PM (96.61.83.71)

It is hard to understand why it takes so long to offer relief to the Passengers on the ship.You would think the would have a contingent plan it place for these emergencies.
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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: DELRAY]
      #1479924 - 02/13/13 09:56 AM (71.101.41.196)

Sorry, like what? It would be extremely dangerous to get them off the ship and they have brought supplies from other ships, at least twice.

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1480131 - 02/13/13 05:29 PM (173.48.111.235)

How about redundant systems or something to flush toilets and provide water?

While I realize its unlikely this will happen on a cruise, just the thought of it is enough to keep me far away - I had little desire before anyway, but after the past couple of stories like this, there's no way I'd go.

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: maytrix]
      #1480143 - 02/13/13 05:44 PM (68.37.65.87)

Ditto!!!

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: maytrix]
      #1480165 - 02/13/13 06:42 PM (72.59.124.6)

Redundant systems?? This really is just such an unusual situation, it just wouldn't make sense..

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1480561 - 02/14/13 10:30 PM (173.48.111.235)

I haven't read enough about it, but wasn't it a fire in the engine room? Shouldn't there be multiple engines?

Seems to me that a ship that size should have some way of running basic systems even if there is no propulsion.

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1480575 - 02/15/13 12:05 AM (107.9.16.124)

These ships are remarkable and these issues relatively remote -- I recently took the super tour of one including cool spots like engine control room - laundry - photo lab, back stage, galley, freezer areas, hospital/morgue, exhaust stack. I have remarkable respect for the ship and crews.

That said, I think they might rethink an emergency plumbing plan by literally having an area where they can configure as a "real life poop deck" --- a latrine where a pump can bring seawater up and continuously flush a set of "private stalls" constructed on the deckplate like the old roman public bathrooms. The cleanup would be minimal). Also, I read they airlifted a generator which allowed the restoration of hot meal prep ---- might want to add that emergency generator to the design to have that on board.

I can only imagine if sees were rough and they were adrift.

Most of these boats are diesel/electrics. There are multiple diesels to generate electricty for the props --- why does one engine fire totally disable the propulsion of the ship. You would hope they could reconfigure/rewire toget something out of the other prop (couple knots/stabilization). An open sea Atlantic or Pacific crossing could be even more sporty than this episode.

Hopefully cruise prices will be alittle lower as a result.

It makes me wonder why out of all the Carnival brands (Carnival, Costa, Cunard, Holland America, P&O, Seabourne, Princess and others)why do Carnival & Costa have less safety success.

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: PelicanPirate]
      #1480601 - 02/15/13 08:27 AM (72.59.124.6)

The problem with the 'poop deck', as you say, is that legally, they have to treat sewage before it goes into the water. As far as the generators, I guess there may be some talk of separating hte area where the generators are now, so that one fire cannot take them all out. I spent a couple of hours last night watching CNN, watching the ship come in and some of the passengers come off and I have to say, the ones who talked to the news media looked remarkably well and in remarkably good spirits.

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Re: Carnival Triumph without propulsion power [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1480794 - 02/15/13 09:01 PM (96.61.83.71)

Carol You make some good points,but it took them 5 days to get to passengers to shore. It is rare it happens but there have been more than just this incident.
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