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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: Bill_S]
      #1591462 - 05/27/14 08:20 AM (68.245.189.123)

Regarding jumbo navel oranges, I beg to differ--have you ever had a honeybell???

Regarding the topic, central Florida certainly is the lighning capital of the US! We had a huge thunderstorm here last night! Best to try to do all one can to protect yourself..


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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: silverfox82]
      #1591470 - 05/27/14 09:09 AM (162.206.126.26)

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silverfox82 said:
I moved to Florida 2 months ago and the learning curve is rather steep. I have never had an AC (lived on the beach in NY and didn't need one)a garage door opener, a sprinkler system or a well for household water. I seem to be OK with all of that now but I'm getting spooked about killing the big item stuff with a power surge from lightning strikes. I see whole house surge protectors installed on the service panel as preventative, is it necessary and do they work? Most importantly, how much$$$



We are here in South FLA and the Stormshield on our FPL bill is $9.95/mo. There was no installation fee as I recall.

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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: silverfox82]
      #1591493 - 05/27/14 11:33 AM (173.12.44.177)

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silverfox82 said:
Since they are also hooked up to cable do I need something for the coax coming in?



First learn what a protector does. No protector does protection. Protectors that are effective connect to something that absorbs hundreds of thousands of joules. Obvious, protectors adjacent to appliances (only hundreds of joules) do not even claim such protection.

A completely different device, called a 'whole house' protector, is effective when connected low impedance (ie 'less than 10 feet') to single point earth ground. Where do hundreds of thousand of joules harmlessly dissipate? That answer defines what does protection. Why a 'whole house' protector is so effective. And why those power strips do not even claim to protect from typically destructive surges.

Best protection for cable is a hardwire from that cable, low impedance (ie 'less than 10 feet'), to the same earth ground. Again, what is absorbing hundreds of thousands of joules? Any recommendation that does not answer that question is seriously suspect.

Best protection for cable is a hardwire. Your telephone and AC electric cannot connect directly. So a protector does what a hardwire would do better.

Another used junk science reasoning to assume a surge entered via his cable. Observation while ignoring how electricity works is, at best, wild speculation. Did a surge enter on cable, destroy a TV, then stop? Of course not. It is electricity. It must have both an incoming and outgoing path to earth. Incoming to that TV was probably the typical path - AC electric. Outgoing path to earth would be the cable connection. Damage is often on the outgoing path. Observation and speculation assumed a surge entered on cable.

Most surges are lightning strikes to the more exposed wires (AC electric), incoming to all appliances, and outgoing destructively through fewer appliances that make the best connection to earth.

Not only is your earth ground critically important. That is your secondary protection layer. Your primary protection layer is the utility's earth ground. Also inspect that especially since so many bastards today steal that copper wire.

Best protector makes a low impedance (ie no sharp wire bends) connection to earth. That would be a 'whole house' protector that is also necessary to protect those power strips.


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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1591508 - 05/27/14 01:14 PM (69.255.96.96)

Hi Carol, I don't believe so...what months are they available in the stores? I will watch for them at Giant up here...



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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: Bill_S]
      #1591509 - 05/27/14 01:18 PM (68.245.189.123)

Actually, I am not sure I've ever seen a honeybell in stores up north. Their season is quite a bit later than navels, as they come in in maybe March. (..sorry for the tangent.. )

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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: Carol_Hill]
      #1591533 - 05/27/14 04:26 PM (69.254.25.16)

Thanks again everyone for the input, got sidetracked today but will get it done tomorrow, I'm convinced. As to honeybells, oddly enough they are not even oranges but a cross between a grapefruit and a tangerine, absolutely delicious.

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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: silverfox82]
      #1591631 - 05/28/14 11:43 AM (108.199.90.84)

The navels were great this year. So sweet.
I do believe FPL offers the surge protection.
And I too was at Patrick AFB back in the 70's.
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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: irina]
      #1591680 - 05/28/14 05:07 PM (69.255.96.96)

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irina said:
The navels were great this year. So sweet.
I do believe FPL offers the surge protection.
And I too was at Patrick AFB back in the 70's.
cheers
irina




Irina...I reported in as a brand new butter-bar on 15 June 1968 and PCS'ed out in early November 1971 as a Captain, headed to ESC at Hanscom AFB in Bedford MA. I lived in BOQ 265, and worked in HQ AFETR/ETOOP-3... When were you there?

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Re: whole house surge proctector [Re: Bill_S]
      #1591781 - 05/29/14 01:49 PM (108.199.90.84)

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