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GeorgeC1
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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: Dirichlet]
      #1730541 - 04/20/17 11:46 AM (12.130.106.101)

Not trying to ruffle feathers but the Voyage 60 is to big for the NPT Moorings other then the yellow balls with heavier ground tackle.

MOORINGS + ANCHORAGES
In order for sailors to enjoy the many beautiful sites both above and below the water, The BVI National Parks Trust has installed more than 200 mooring buoys (surface buoys attached to stainless steel pins set in bedrock) for daytime use only at many BVI dive sites. The system has been operating since 1991, and is aimed at protecting the fragile, underwater marine ecology from physical damage, particularly by boat anchors, and maintaining the pristine reefs for the future.
There is a 90-minute time limit on all moorings, and use is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Vessels over 55 feet in length or over 35 tons may use 18-inch diameter yellow buoys only.


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Dirichlet
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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1730547 - 04/20/17 12:38 PM (132.250.22.14)

Quote:

GeorgeC1 said:
Not trying to ruffle feathers but the Voyage 60 is too big for the NPT Moorings other than the yellow balls with heavier ground tackle.

MOORINGS + ANCHORAGES
In order for sailors to enjoy the many beautiful sites both above and below the water, The BVI National Parks Trust has installed more than 200 mooring buoys (surface buoys attached to stainless steel pins set in bedrock) for daytime use only at many BVI dive sites. The system has been operating since 1991, and is aimed at protecting the fragile, underwater marine ecology from physical damage, particularly by boat anchors, and maintaining the pristine reefs for the future.
There is a 90-minute time limit on all moorings, and use is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Vessels over 55 feet in length or over 35 tons may use 18-inch diameter yellow buoys only.



I wondered how long it would take before someone posted along those lines (i.e. picayune butthurt).

Note that the V600 weighs less than 20 tons; 4000lb less than a Moorings 514PC, and 30000lb less than the limit. Also, more than 5' of the OAL is the friggin' hollow back deck on the sugar scoops. I was/am well aware of the length/displacement rule. And, knowing that my boat posed no greater threat to the ground tackle than most smaller yachts in charter, especially given the complete lack of any breeze, I chose to ignore it. I also will in the future should I again take out the V600. Sorry, not sorry.

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Edited by Dirichlet (04/20/17 12:44 PM)


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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: maytrix]
      #1730552 - 04/20/17 02:34 PM (107.72.162.121)

It's actually very simple. Take a picture with the time date stamp on it and text it to the Charter company and the NPS with the amount due
No paper, stamps or or mailings.


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GeorgeC1
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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: Dirichlet]
      #1730555 - 04/20/17 02:43 PM (64.134.169.144)

I personally think even the 48 to 50 foot cats are two big for the poorly maintained 3/4" polypropylene line moorings. I don't use them if the wind is over 15 knots unless some capable of driving the boat remains onboard. The Voyage listed weights are a base boat. My voyage cat charter ready was 20% heavier then the quoted number when it was hauled. The Moorings boats are quoted commissioned and charter ready.
The size limit however is for spacing on the balls. There are several area's like the dogs and Monkey point where the 60 simply dominates the moorings. I suppose everyone can decide which rules they feel are applicable and which are not. The nice thing about the 60 is that you can anchor out and use the large dinghy to hit these places quickly and easily.


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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1730598 - 04/21/17 08:55 AM (199.168.151.165)

The reality unless the industry or the environmentalists complain in a meaningful way to the powers that be. Nothing will change here. The industry(s) would rather see you paying somewhere at a bar or dive shop. I doubt the environmentalist have any real stroke. A big part of the time limits was to reduce the environmental impact and dumping on the sensitive sites. Again I bet most here will like any attempt at enforcement even less than the freedom and liberty granted today. How would any reasonable Due Process be facilitated to the visitor with a $500 ticket assigned to him or his boat boat name. In most cases the BVI authorities do not write tickets. They simply arrest the captain, crew, and impound the boat they think broke the law.

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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: StormJib]
      #1730660 - 04/21/17 02:43 PM (68.194.104.111)

hmmmm, be careful what you ask for. Large fines used to pay the enforcement... yea that's never gone bad anywhere.

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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: stephenr]
      #1730681 - 04/21/17 05:24 PM (173.225.249.248)

Yup - left Norman at 7am, motored straight to the Indians and found just one ball available. Then a big cat came in and tried to drop an anchor right next time us.

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Re: NPT Mooring Irritation [Re: CottageGirl]
      #1730687 - 04/21/17 05:44 PM (71.211.223.127)

We found the best time to dive the Indians is after 3 pm, seems like the mooring spots clear around 3

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