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GeorgeC1
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Comments? New 50 for charter
      #1751424 - 11/09/17 11:44 AM (108.213.0.118)

Curious to hear comments on the new 50 to replace the Moorings 4800. Personally I don't care for the flybridge as it kills a lot of useful sail area. I do however love the cabin arrangement and the fact it has a true owners cabin in the 4 cabin configuration. First boat arrives in June to the BVI. It's a big 50 and is certainly a charter condo. Will be interesting to see if it can sail.
https://www.leopardcatamarans.com/catamarans/Leopard-50/multimedia#&gid=1&pid=10

https://www.moorings.com/yachts/sail-fleet/catamarans/5000-4-cabin

Edited by GeorgeC1 (11/09/17 11:49 AM)


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NCSailor
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1751427 - 11/09/17 12:08 PM (97.41.134.88)

I donít care for the space ship looking interior but it has great amounts of room.

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Manpot
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: NCSailor]
      #1751432 - 11/09/17 01:17 PM (73.241.132.163)

I just cant get past the giant "airbrake" upfront. I cant imagine this sails well close to the wind and, God help you, if you are ploughing into big seas with that balcony out there..as a floating condo I'm sure its fine..as a sailboat..YUK.

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GeorgeC1
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: Manpot]
      #1751434 - 11/09/17 01:37 PM (108.213.0.118)

I tend to agree on the airbrake however it seems to be a feature of almost every new cat except the Voyage boats. The downside of sleek however is the Voyage boats shape between the hulls is almost like a aircraft wing. Lots of potential lift there and judging by the photos of the hurricane hole they got airborne more than the other boats. Still I loved sailing upwind in a Voyage 440. Don't love it near as much in a Moorings 4800 or Lagoon 450.
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Calvin
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1751436 - 11/09/17 01:43 PM (73.146.142.126)

When I look at the pictures I see sharp corners everywhere. Personally, I think that is an indication of poor design.

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maytrix
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: Calvin]
      #1751438 - 11/09/17 02:06 PM (24.91.86.214)

On the one hand I like the owners cabin in the 4 cabin version, but on the other I don't like the 2 sets of stairs. Also having one set right in the middle of the galley seems odd..

It looks like the flybridge is an option and I'm not sure what I think of it. I'd have to see it. I'm does mean anyone up there will have to watch there head when tacking.

The forward galley is great - We took out a Moorings 4000 and that was a nice change. Really felt a lot more spacious because of it.

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Matt


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kneafseym
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: maytrix]
      #1751444 - 11/09/17 03:27 PM (99.12.86.214)

Nice that the flybridge does not completely isolate you from the people below. When I did charters on Lagoon 440s I would often be totally out of touch with what was happening below. On the Leopard 4600 with the semi fly you could talk to people with you upstairs or below.

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GeorgeC1
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: kneafseym]
      #1751492 - 11/10/17 08:51 AM (108.213.0.118)

I like the helm station. It's essentially the same as the 4600/4800. Going to be tough to see the left front of the boat docking however. The square corners on the 4800 concerned me but seem to be a non issue in practice even in rough water. The stairs in the galley however could be a big issue. That did not register with me until the post here. Looks really easy to step off accidentally perhaps holding something hot.
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FRANKIE2
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: GeorgeC1]
      #1752016 - 11/18/17 09:53 AM (97.91.73.226)

I am not impressed with the design of the interior. The "owner's cabin" requires the 2 staircases to the port hull and may cause some friction among charter guests. I lost my 4800 in Irma, but I think I will go with a 4500 as a replacement.

Kevin


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jphart
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Re: Comments? New 50 for charter [Re: FRANKIE2]
      #1752023 - 11/18/17 11:28 AM (73.104.224.216)

Kevin,
Believe that is the starboard hull with the two stairs!
Personally, having chartered many Moorings sailing cats from 38' to 46, I can see my family on one in a couple of years. The 58 footer is definitely a floating three story condo, and too big for me! But We love the front porch for sundowners, and especially when the heat of the setting sun is behind us!

And a water maker will be a big hit for the ladies.

Sorry for your loss due to Irma. Haven't read any stories of how the insurance and financial aspect of that has worked out for owners. Care to share?


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