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Re: St. Thomas VS Tortola Charter?
[Re: Will_L]
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06/09/2017 11:58 PM
06/09/2017 11:58 PM
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LocalSailor
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If you would enjoy spending a night or 2 in STJ or the USVI somewhere instead of the BVI scene, avoid the ferry trips and cost, provision in St Thomas at USVI prices,quality and selection, can find a vessel that you like at a good price then it seems worth considering the STT starting point. C&I are not very time consuming and probably cheaper overall with a STJ stop, than the ferry cost RT alone. If you have quite a few 'must visit' places in the BVI it probably should indicate a BVI start.
I have no dog in the fight either - just personally enjoy the peace and quiet of STJ than the more crowded bar/restaurant scene in the BVI when I am sailing.
Last edited by LocalSailor; 06/10/2017 12:00 AM.
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Re: St. Thomas VS Tortola Charter?
[Re: LocalSailor]
#132321
06/10/2017 07:28 AM
06/10/2017 07:28 AM
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Posts: 189 Eastern MA
tothedogs
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We have done more than 30 charters in the VI. After starting in the BVI for many years, we became frustrated by ferry schedules that are more like general guidelines and nearly missing a number of departing flights or last ferries due to incoming delays. We also wanted to see more of St. John.
There are two very good companies in St. Thomas, CYOA and Island Yachts (BVIYC has recently opened a small base in STT as well). We have used them both and plan to continue to do so (an upcoming charter in early July to the SVI from STT). Trying to compare boat prices is easier said than done. Most of the CYOA boats have AC, watermakers and ice makers. IYC only charters Island Packets. Neither of these are directly compatible to most of the BVI based fleets. If there is an extra cost, it is more than offset by the quality and equipment of the boats, not to mention savings on provisioning, ferry costs and the recently implemented increase in the cruising permit fee in the BVI.
C&I is no problem and takes about 15 minutes depending on if there are others ahead of you in line. Going into the BVI, we generally clear in at JVD and then go to White Bay or elsewhere on the island. On the way back to STT after a nice downwind sail from JVD or anywhere in the Drake, we clear in at Cruz Bay, have a good lunch and then continue to Hawksnest, Maho, or Christmas Cove for the last night before returning to Red Hook or CA.
If you want to spend some time on St. John, or go to the SVI, this is the way to go. If you want to spend all the time in the BVI, a Tortola start is probably better.
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Re: St. Thomas VS Tortola Charter?
[Re: CaptnAndy]
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06/10/2017 06:46 PM
06/10/2017 06:46 PM
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agrimsrud
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In case I'm one of the "tainted" owners I will state up front on the very first sentence that I'm a boat owner at CYOA.
Before being a boat owner I chartered both in BVI and then later out of St Thomas so I have experienced both. I obviously prefer St Thomas - many reasons for this. However - I think it would be silly of me to believe that you necessarily value the same things that I value. You indicate you have already chartered multiple times out of Tortola so you know what that's like. Give it a try out of St Thomas and compare the experience - I don't see how you possibly have anything to loose and you might find you like it. I did.
Life's short - sail more!
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Re: St. Thomas VS Tortola Charter?
[Re: agrimsrud]
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06/11/2017 06:26 PM
06/11/2017 06:26 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,951 St. John, USVI
RickG
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Chartering on St. Thomas works for us because we prefer St. John and the SVIs to the BVIs. We love the BVIs too, but it costs more to go there and its crowded. The boat is just part of the cost - ferries, provisions, beach bars and restaurants are more expensive and the level of service is pretty challenged. There are some BVI deals out there - Leverick Bay, Anegada and anchorages without moorings. If cost is a driver, then provisioning on St. Thomas, eating some meals on the boat and hitting the National Park moorings in the pristine bays and free non-NPS anchorages around St. John is a big cost saver.
There are BVI spots we do not want to miss on a USVI/BVI trip. Sopers Hole is very close to Leinster Bay on St. John, and Jost Van Dyke is just a wee bit further for checking into the BVIs. Check in at Jost Van Dyke is generally easier. If you are on a charter boat, you can check in and out at the same time.
We voted with our wallet and own a private boat that we keep in French Town Marina on St. Thomas. Its the same marina as CYOA, ten minutes from the STT airport. In July we are taking De Life out for two weeks and week one will probably be the SVIs with week two a combination of St. John and the BVIs.
Cheers, RickG
S/V Echoes, 2003 Beneteau 423 Grenada
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