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Government Failed? #147652
10/30/2017 07:04 PM
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Did I hear right that once again the Government has failed? This, post Irma, is not the time for petty squabbles. We need money from the Nederlandse and the petty squabbles will only harm that. WAKE UP!

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Re: Government Failed? [Re: transplantsxm] #147653
10/30/2017 07:07 PM
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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147654
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Re: Government Failed? [Re: transplantsxm] #147655
10/31/2017 07:20 AM
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We were waiting for this to happen. Blessings !

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Kennys] #147656
10/31/2017 07:31 AM
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Does this mean that Holland will have much needed control of St Maarten government

Re: Government Failed? [Re: bonsie] #147657
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This means that the funds that will be made available for the redevelopment of the Island will be under full control.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: bonsie] #147658
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Does this mean that Holland will have much needed control of St Maarten government


Based on what I have learned about the form of government, the answer to this is "no", although the conditions it set for making the money available will be met. One of those conditions was for there to be accountability for and control over the money independent of the government. Look for the Dutch to tweak that requirement, depending on their view of the new government.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: thebowl] #147659
10/31/2017 03:42 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/Sarah-Wescot-Wi...n3YmqP2yoBNaKBo <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: sxmmartini] #147660
10/31/2017 06:50 PM
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WOW!!! You go, girl!!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> If you have a few minutes, listen to Sarah's news conference...


Carol Hill
Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147661
10/31/2017 07:41 PM
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It was due ! Enough is enough.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147662
10/31/2017 07:55 PM
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Agreed!

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Snorkeller] #147663
11/01/2017 07:07 AM
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Looks like Marlin as a "Last Hurrah" is still causing problems to slow recovery down.

https://www.sxm-talks.com/st-martin-news...-new-elections/


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We will back when the island is ready for us!!

This is going to be a long wait, but the reward at the end will be worth it.
Re: Government Failed? [Re: mprevo] #147664
11/01/2017 07:45 AM
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Being desperate . Last minute response. Adios !

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Kennys] #147665
11/01/2017 08:10 AM
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So, now what happens??


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147666
11/01/2017 09:30 AM
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Well there is a no confidence vote meeting today in the Parliament and from there the Government change will began.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Kennys] #147667
11/01/2017 09:35 AM
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Sarah said that she would fight elections being held. Will the public demand that Marlin and his government just resign? What will happen to the Dutch aid if elections are actually called??? I'm afraid this BS by Marlin will still prevent the Dutch from sending aid.


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147668
11/01/2017 10:01 AM
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So, now what happens??


Good question. Among other things, Governor Holiday may earn his pay today.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Snorkeller] #147669
11/01/2017 10:03 AM
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As in, to convince Marlin and his band of brothers to resign, for the good of the country??


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147670
11/01/2017 10:57 AM
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I am hoping the Governor can recognize the vote of no confidence at the 2 pm meeting and somehow have it control what happens next - as in recognize new government. As opposed to Marlin and his allies dissolving Parliament and calling elections "first" and then stay in power through elections. I expect nothing from Marlin except effort to hold onto power as long as possible. I think Governor will do what he can but I am not sure what he can do. This could really get ugly if Sarah was really serious about what she said in her press conference.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Snorkeller] #147671
11/01/2017 11:12 AM
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That's what I was thinking. I think people will not need much encouragement to take to the streets, in a bad way.


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: transplantsxm] #147672
11/01/2017 12:06 PM
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<a href="www.thedailyherald.sx/islands/70611-knops-awaits-st-maarten-political-developments" target="_blank">Dutch are awaiting today's developments</a> before making a decision on the funds.


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147673
11/01/2017 12:18 PM
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No elections will be allowed to be held.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Kennys] #147674
11/01/2017 12:21 PM
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It appears that the 2 PM meeting will be on the internet, at http://www.sxmparliament.org/

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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147675
11/01/2017 02:11 PM
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Well, how bizarre. Meeting adjourned without doing anything.


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147676
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Not bizarre in SXM -if Marlin holds onto power I thnk that the people will do somethng serious.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147677
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Well, how bizarre. Meeting adjourned without doing anything.


I believe it will be resuming at 5pm

Re: Government Failed? [Re: sxmmartini] #147678
11/01/2017 04:56 PM
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Yes, that's what she said when they adjourned. Hopefully reason has prevailed.


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147679
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It appears that the 2 PM meeting will be on the internet, at http://www.sxmparliament.org/


Live Now!

Meeting resumes tomorrow 10AM <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Government Failed? [Re: sxmmartini] #147680
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Meeting's over. What happened??


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147681
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Meeting is on at this moment.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Kennys] #147682
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OK, please post when you know something.


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147683
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Will do , the PM is currently speaking.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Kennys] #147684
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Any news??


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Meeting continues this morning with a no confidence motion to be passed. Marlin is now is trying to mention National Government.

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What is a national government? What does that mean? Is still sounds like he is going to call elections.


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That's his suggestion ignored to stay in power, but the others won't go that way.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147688
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What is a national government? What does that mean? Is still sounds like he is going to call elections.


The PM is elected by the National Government.
The Parliament and the Prime Minister have complete authority.


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Re: Government Failed? [Re: Carol_Hill] #147689
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What is a national government? What does that mean? Is still sounds like he is going to call elections.


Idea of a National Government is that all parties join together in a government - all parties reach consensus (or as close to consensus as possible) as to PM and other ministers. Hard to see how that can happen with this bunch.

Re: Government Failed? [Re: Snorkeller] #147690
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OK, thanks. Yes, I don't see that happening here.


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Meeting will resume shortly. Construction noise stopped meeting. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
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