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Seaborne and question #155165
02/18/2018 09:29 AM
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Hello everyone! We are heading down in June for our annual family trip. After trying both paths in recent years with our girls (12 and 14 now), we are flying into Beef Island using American with a Seaborne code share. Since it happened to us last year, I checked the other day and Seaborne has changed our flight on the way down from 6:30 pm to 3:10 pm. I called Seaborne and they said they have made all of their changes through mid-November. If you have a Seaborne flight between now and then, I encourage you to check your flights. Fortunately, we were able to change our American flights to accommodate the new Seaborne time and we will be fine.

Question - One of our favorite beaches is Trunk on Virgin Gorda, and we especially like spending the afternoon there. I would really like to spend a night close, but the sand is soft in this bay and I recognize that The Baths moorings are not for overnight use. We would rather not spend the night in the marina at VGYH or anchored in Savannah Bay. Are there any other nice places you have anchored that are close and would be calm with June winds? How about Little Dix Bay? Since the resort will not open until 2019, can we anchor in the bay and use the beach?

Last, if you have been on Trunk in recent months, I wonder how much damage the beach and palms sustained. Any information you can share would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Steve

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Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155168
02/18/2018 10:31 AM
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We were notified of the same change for our May trip. So, the unending conversation. Is one hour enough time for us AND our checked bags to get onto the Seaborne flight. We have some things that will not be allowed in carryon.

We too are looking forward to returning to the BVI. Quite frankly, I can do without the luggage for a day or two. Just need to know if we can make the Seaborne connection.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: trueblue] #155170
02/18/2018 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by trueblue
We were notified of the same change for our May trip. So, the unending conversation. Is one hour enough time for us AND our checked bags to get onto the Seaborne flight. We have some things that will not be allowed in carryon.

We too are looking forward to returning to the BVI. Quite frankly, I can do without the luggage for a day or two. Just need to know if we can make the Seaborne connection.


Assuming you are on a Code Share flight and your luggage is checked through to Beef island and your inbound flight arrives on or near schedule 1 hour is plenty of time to make your connection to Seaborne. Regardless of what airline you are using for your inbound flight (and what arrival gate your airline is using) it will take you less than 12 minutes from the time you deplane until you get to the Seaborne gate. Just follow the overhead signs to the Seaborne gate and make sure you don't go outside the secure area.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155171
02/18/2018 11:43 AM
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Seabourne has been sold to Silver airlines so everything will change. Unknown what will happen.


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Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155191
02/18/2018 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by steve74
Question - One of our favorite beaches is Trunk on Virgin Gorda, and we especially like spending the afternoon there. I would really like to spend a night close, but the sand is soft in this bay and I recognize that The Baths moorings are not for overnight use. We would rather not spend the night in the marina at VGYH or anchored in Savannah Bay. Are there any other nice places you have anchored that are close and would be calm with June winds? How about Little Dix Bay? Since the resort will not open until 2019, can we anchor in the bay and use the beach?


There are about a dozen public moorings outside the entrance to VGYH.

You can anchor in Little Dix Bay, but I find it to be very snug. I prefer Savannah Bay which has a much wider entrance and much more swinging room.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155203
02/18/2018 09:38 PM
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Seabourne sold to Silver? Silver has not been my favorite. Tough transfers, baggage charge even if you're exempt on code share and some archaic old planes.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: sailbynight] #155211
02/19/2018 04:25 AM
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Agreed. OTOH they still fly. Beats swimming afaic


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Re: Seaborne and question [Re: BaardJ] #155243
02/19/2018 01:38 PM
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Thank you for this information! With the resort being closed, I wonder if it is okay for us to hang out on the beach. Are the rules the same as the USVI where all beaches are public on public BVI islands - and you are okay as long as you don't use a private resort's property (e.g. chairs and such).

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155253
02/19/2018 03:40 PM
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My guess is that you will not be very welcome and made to feel so. We stopped in there last summer and cnchoed for lunch and snorkeled with turtles from the boat.. A security guy came down onto the beach in a gator and gave us the evil eye. There are far too many places to be on a beach where you are welcome than to go where you are not imo.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155260
02/19/2018 04:58 PM
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We were told that Little Dix has closed the beach access, at least from land, during the reconstruction. Someone said that they fear the new owners will be even more restrictive once they reopen. Just island chatter, so who knows what will happen.



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Re: Seaborne and question [Re: ohstate] #155265
02/19/2018 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ohstate
We were told that Little Dix has closed the beach access, at least from land, during the reconstruction. Someone said that they fear the new owners will be even more restrictive once they reopen. Just island chatter, so who knows what will happen.


Little Dix Bay was not sold I do not believe. They have been and remain a property of the Rosewood Corp. They simply closed to do some much needed upgrading ...and be able to hire back only those people they wanted. The latter is a big deal in a country where you cannot hire or fire people easily. Originally it was to be an 18 month project but Irma extended it.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: ohstate] #155269
02/19/2018 07:44 PM
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We did a 'fly-by' of the anchorage in August and there was so much construction activity ongoing near the beach that it wasn't worth a stop. Been by twice by boat post-Irma and while there were virtually no signs of construction, the beach had not been cleaned up yet.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155316
02/20/2018 04:19 PM
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Thanks for the heads up! Our flights were changed to the 3:10 from the later one, and we did not get any notification from American.

Re: Seaborne and question [Re: steve74] #155340
02/20/2018 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by steve74
Thank you for this information! With the resort being closed, I wonder if it is okay for us to hang out on the beach. Are the rules the same as the USVI where all beaches are public on public BVI islands - and you are okay as long as you don't use a private resort's property (e.g. chairs and such).


When people tell you all the beaches are public it doesn’t mean “all the sand” on a beach is for public access. The “public access” area is a narrow strip of sand between the water’s edge to an irregularly shaped line legally known as the “average high water mark”. Anything above the AHWM belongs to the owner of the land and is not for public access. For all practical purposes because there isn’t a great change between high and low tide in the Caribbean (BVI’s included) that “narrow strip” is generally only about 5’ to 7’ wide.

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