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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Breeze]
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12/20/2019 07:34 PM
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sail445
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Sailors who have no issue setting an anchor or two don't need to be concerned with BoatyBall. Might take a couple tries in GH to get a good set, but that extra hour or so on the boat means cheaper beer or boat drinks, and no mooring bill. Make sure your depth finder is calibrated ( and that you know to what it is calibrated).
Always a choice. Not always a choice when the mooring fields are full. The charter companies don’t supply enough chain averaging about 125’. Most places require two anchors so you can set your boat where it won’t swing into a moored boat.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: CaptainJay]
#211975
12/21/2019 11:28 AM
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sail445
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All of our CYOA boats have 250 feet or more of anchor chain. :-) This also is not an issue in the National Park in St John :-)
CYOA has always been one step ahead:-))
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Memphré]
#212011
12/21/2019 06:57 PM
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mcevog
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Pretty sure the factory standard fit for a Lagoon 450 is 85meters of chain... so it would be unusual for a Cat of that size to have less than 230/250ft in the locker...
Last edited by mcevog; 12/21/2019 06:58 PM.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: GeorgeC1]
#212016
12/21/2019 08:53 PM
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sail445
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I would not even trust it for a dive except we kept a qualified skipper onboard. Still surprised me so much chain was on the bottom. G One heck of a lunch hook But back to the crowded mooring fields,in some cases the waters where you can anchor are 40’+- and a second anchor to keep you in one place (Bahamian Moor) is needed. Boaty Ball suits the owners so they don’t have the hassle to send someone to collect but like most people say there are day boats that want to have lunch or cocktails and move on to another island and this Boatyball restricts it and the restaurants lose more then the cost of a mooring. Merry Christmas
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Memphré]
#212094
12/22/2019 11:52 PM
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warren460
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The main problem is that there are less fcfs balls. Less choices, people are forced to use boatyball. Boatyball does not solve the problem of not enough balls. It makes the problem far worse.
Last edited by warren460; 12/22/2019 11:52 PM.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Memphré]
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12/23/2019 08:15 PM
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RatmansWife
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I would expect to arrive and find the FCFS balls taken and the Boaty Balls empty! That's why they paid for BB, so they could sail, snorkel, hang out on a beach, whatever and arrive late to find a ball. You wouldn't pay for a BB if you planned to arrive early.
The elephant in the room is the size of the boats in today's fleets. Some mooring fields were laid out when a 40' mono was a BIG boat. Now there cats above 60'. I am most familiar with MC, and I can tell you things can get very interesting when the winds and currents have the monos and cats laying in different directions.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Memphré]
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12/24/2019 01:48 AM
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MrEZgoin
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I don't know if Boaty Ball has anything to do with the spacing and layout of the mooring balls, but I do know that we touched another boat on a mooring (40' and 42' cat) for the very first time in 15 trips to the BVI and lots elsewhere. Anegada mooring field.
M4000 "Lio Kai"
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: NotquiteCapnRon]
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12/24/2019 09:17 AM
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Kirk
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"Light bulb moment" should have occurred when the first post ever troll named after a lake monster suckered you all in to pissing and moaning about BB in yet another tiresome BB thread. I could be mistaken, but I believe thread participation is still optional.
Kirk in Maryland
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: warren460]
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12/24/2019 10:36 PM
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xrayman67
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Ratmanswife, My point was that all fcfs balls were taken and less than half of the bb were booked.
Anyone arriving late was forced to either leave or use bb. Great point!!! So far we've been able to avoid BB. Hope the same this May!
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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12/27/2019 11:14 AM
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Kirk
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The concept of online payment for balls is a good idea. It’s the reservation part that has people upset. Boatyball promised FCFS balls when they announced their plans. When are they coming? G Wonder why they don't reply....the dude is always logged in here whenever I look in.
Kirk in Maryland
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Kirk]
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12/27/2019 12:37 PM
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The concept of online payment for balls is a good idea. It’s the reservation part that has people upset. Boatyball promised FCFS balls when they announced their plans. When are they coming? G Wonder why they don't reply....the dude is always logged in here whenever I look in. Boats Ball is a business and the last thing they want is more FCFS. In actuality they’re going to acquire all the mooring balls little by little.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Memphré]
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01/15/2020 04:51 PM
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Kirk
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Hmmmm.... The 24 hour advanced reservation feature will be made available to the first 6 users that sign up for this feature through this form for any given week. We are limiting the number of users to ensure that anyone with this feature has access to the bay of their choice and to ensure that 90% of all moorings in the program are available to members with our basic membership.
Your submission will not be considered unless the start of your travel is within 30 days of this submission.
Once submitted we will send out an invoice and you will have 24 hours to pay for this feature. If not paid in 24 hours the slot will be opened back up for another user.
The 24 hour advanced reservation feature is $423.00 for seven consecutive days. You can add additional days for $53.00 per day.
By upgrading your membership you will have the ability to reserve moorings 24 hours before users with the basic membership. The upgraded membership also allows you to reserve the same mooring ball for consecutive nights if you would like to stay on the same mooring.
The subscription fee does not include the nightly rate of the moorings. Members with the advanced feature are still limited to one mooring reservation per night.
If you meet the above criteria and would like to upgrade your membership then please fill out the form below and submit. https://survey.zohopublic.com/zs/nd...BlOndRWDr75xXTl-AA3ZF-80_NgzCOlasL10FGWs
Kirk in Maryland
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Kirk]
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01/15/2020 06:03 PM
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sail445
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Hmmmm.... The 24 hour advanced reservation feature will be made available to the first 6 users that sign up for this feature through this form for any given week. We are limiting the number of users to ensure that anyone with this feature has access to the bay of their choice and to ensure that 90% of all moorings in the program are available to members with our basic membership.
Your submission will not be considered unless the start of your travel is within 30 days of this submission.
Once submitted we will send out an invoice and you will have 24 hours to pay for this feature. If not paid in 24 hours the slot will be opened back up for another user.
The 24 hour advanced reservation feature is $423.00 for seven consecutive days. You can add additional days for $53.00 per day.
By upgrading your membership you will have the ability to reserve moorings 24 hours before users with the basic membership. The upgraded membership also allows you to reserve the same mooring ball for consecutive nights if you would like to stay on the same mooring.
The subscription fee does not include the nightly rate of the moorings. Members with the advanced feature are still limited to one mooring reservation per night.
If you meet the above criteria and would like to upgrade your membership then please fill out the form below and submit. https://survey.zohopublic.com/zs/nd...BlOndRWDr75xXTl-AA3ZF-80_NgzCOlasL10FGWsWow you have a chance for Advanced parking throughout the BVI. with only a credit card. I’m sure the charterers who tip tip $50 to an expert line handler who grabs one of your dock lines are in seventh heaven.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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01/15/2020 07:26 PM
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JasonHelmbrecht
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423.00 dollars for 7 nights and you still get to pay 50.00 a night. Total charge 773 dollars or only 101.00 per night. Wow what a deal. I warned when boatyball started this would be coming. George I thought they were $40/night.
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: JasonHelmbrecht]
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01/15/2020 07:43 PM
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Kirk
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If I'm not mistaken, BB isn't available at every harbor, so you're paying g for nights that you aren't using it, no?
Kirk in Maryland
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Memphré]
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01/15/2020 08:19 PM
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NoelHall
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Perhaps a 'Christmas/New Year's' offering? It doesn't seem to make much sense otherwise.
Noel Hall "It is humbling indeed, to discover my own opinion is only correct less than 50% of the time." www.noelhall.com
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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01/16/2020 09:34 AM
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Kirk
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You won the lottery. Next trip you will not be as happy unless of course you pay the 473 dollar early booking fee. G Exactly. Every time I read about BB, something new has come up making it harder to win the BB lottery. Previously it was preferential reservations for booking your charter through them (or something along those lines.) Now we hear this one...pay double and get to book a day ahead. All this takes inventory out of the 7:00am race to reserve a ball. Wonder who all this new advance money goes to?
Kirk in Maryland
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Re: Boatyball
[Re: Kirk]
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01/16/2020 11:12 AM
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You won the lottery. Next trip you will not be as happy unless of course you pay the 473 dollar early booking fee. G Wonder who all this new advance money goes to? Not sure where the new money ends up BUT I do know where it is coming from, the BVI boaters willing to pay those prices.
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