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Re: Boatyball [Re: Kirk] #212314
12/27/2019 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirk
Originally Posted by GeorgeC1
The concept of online payment for balls is a good idea. It’s the reservation part that has people upset. Boatyball promised FCFS balls when they announced their plans. When are they coming?
G

Wonder why they don't reply....the dude is always logged in here whenever I look in.

Boats Ball is a business and the last thing they want is more FCFS.
In actuality they’re going to acquire all the mooring balls little by little.

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Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #212327
12/27/2019 04:27 PM
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BB has been exploiting a post Irma market where moorings are limited in high season. This high demand situation won’t last forever. I don’t see BEYC paying BB $10 to rent their balls. They will develop an app to rent FCFS so they they don’t have to handle the cash pickup. Wonky says it is going that way. There is no need for a middleman to rent moorings. The sophisticated owners will buy the app from some smart guy for a nominal price. The less sophisticated will still send a a guy out to collect as making one job into three keeps the BVI economy running at the low level it had been at for years.

Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214221
01/15/2020 04:51 PM
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Hmmmm....


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The 24 hour advanced reservation feature will be made available to the first 6 users that sign up for this feature through this form for any given week. We are limiting the number of users to ensure that anyone with this feature has access to the bay of their choice and to ensure that 90% of all moorings in the program are available to members with our basic membership.

Your submission will not be considered unless the start of your travel is within 30 days of this submission.

Once submitted we will send out an invoice and you will have 24 hours to pay for this feature. If not paid in 24 hours the slot will be opened back up for another user.

The 24 hour advanced reservation feature is $423.00 for seven consecutive days. You can add additional days for $53.00 per day.

By upgrading your membership you will have the ability to reserve moorings 24 hours before users with the basic membership. The upgraded membership also allows you to reserve the same mooring ball for consecutive nights if you would like to stay on the same mooring.

The subscription fee does not include the nightly rate of the moorings. Members with the advanced feature are still limited to one mooring reservation per night.

If you meet the above criteria and would like to upgrade your membership then please fill out the form below and submit.


https://survey.zohopublic.com/zs/nd...BlOndRWDr75xXTl-AA3ZF-80_NgzCOlasL10FGWs


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Re: Boatyball [Re: Kirk] #214234
01/15/2020 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirk
Hmmmm....


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The 24 hour advanced reservation feature will be made available to the first 6 users that sign up for this feature through this form for any given week. We are limiting the number of users to ensure that anyone with this feature has access to the bay of their choice and to ensure that 90% of all moorings in the program are available to members with our basic membership.

Your submission will not be considered unless the start of your travel is within 30 days of this submission.

Once submitted we will send out an invoice and you will have 24 hours to pay for this feature. If not paid in 24 hours the slot will be opened back up for another user.

The 24 hour advanced reservation feature is $423.00 for seven consecutive days. You can add additional days for $53.00 per day.

By upgrading your membership you will have the ability to reserve moorings 24 hours before users with the basic membership. The upgraded membership also allows you to reserve the same mooring ball for consecutive nights if you would like to stay on the same mooring.

The subscription fee does not include the nightly rate of the moorings. Members with the advanced feature are still limited to one mooring reservation per night.

If you meet the above criteria and would like to upgrade your membership then please fill out the form below and submit.


https://survey.zohopublic.com/zs/nd...BlOndRWDr75xXTl-AA3ZF-80_NgzCOlasL10FGWs

Wow you have a chance for Advanced parking throughout the BVI. with only a credit card.
I’m sure the charterers who tip tip $50 to an expert line handler who grabs one of your dock lines are in seventh heaven.

Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214241
01/15/2020 06:39 PM
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423.00 dollars for 7 nights and you still get to pay 50.00 a night. Total charge 773 dollars or only 101.00 per night. Wow what a deal. I warned when boatyball started this would be coming.
George

Re: Boatyball [Re: GeorgeC1] #214244
01/15/2020 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeC1
423.00 dollars for 7 nights and you still get to pay 50.00 a night. Total charge 773 dollars or only 101.00 per night. Wow what a deal. I warned when boatyball started this would be coming.
George

I thought they were $40/night.


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Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214245
01/15/2020 07:34 PM
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With the addition of the advance reservation concept, it reminds me of the Fast Lane concept at many amusement parks. I dock very near Cedar Point amusement park in Ohio so I never saw the advantage to me of buying the Fast Lane pass at a premium because I can just go to the park on a quiet day. If I traveled a long distance to get there once a year I think I'd invest the $ in the Fast Lane to be sure I rode everything I wanted to. This seems like the same idea.

If I vacationed 1 week a year and spent $10k on a charter with a group of 8, I don't think I'd hesitate to guarantee my mooring choice for $12.55/person/night. Definitely a pricey option but I think it will sell and there is still the sharp heavy thing on the bow of all charter boats as an option.


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Re: Boatyball [Re: JasonHelmbrecht] #214248
01/15/2020 07:43 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, BB isn't available at every harbor, so you're paying g for nights that you aren't using it, no?


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Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214252
01/15/2020 08:19 PM
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Perhaps a 'Christmas/New Year's' offering? It doesn't seem to make much sense otherwise.


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Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214257
01/15/2020 08:38 PM
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Only when the business's of the BVI are hurt by this will it end...Cooper is off our list.

Always hate opening this Forum and seeing the word "boatyball" in a thread.

Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214264
01/15/2020 08:54 PM
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$773 per week is $110 per night for the advantage of booking 24 hours early. The cost goes up if you choose to spend a night in an anchorage that doesn't have BB. That is beyond ridiculous.

Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214266
01/15/2020 09:12 PM
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I feel bad for those that get up early to enter the boaty ball rat race. They had trouble getting balls before this. Now it will get harder to get a bb reservation. So, even more people will waste more holiday time.

Why bother with bb? IIf nobody uses them, bye bye bb and fcfs returns.


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Re: Boatyball [Re: NCSailor] #214270
01/15/2020 09:30 PM
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at least on the 8th day it goes down to $93 for the night , bargain really...

Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214287
01/16/2020 12:53 AM
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What about White Bay ?? What’s the status of BoatyBall there ??

Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214292
01/16/2020 06:45 AM
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I know this opinion will draw some fire.... But I think BoatyBall is a comfort. We like to sail and go to intermediate stops like the Dogs on the way. BoatyBall gives us peace of mind that we will have a mooring at the end of the day.

Two issues did arise on this charter
1) the weather was bad over the weekend and we wanted to stay on a ball for a second night. It took some fast click work to get the same ball for a second night. It would be helpful if BB had an option for extended stay.
2) we arrived at a mooring field to find someone on our BB. They had broken down (the charter company got them going later in the afternoon). So we took an FCFC ball. Nothing to be done about this unfortunate event except work with the situation.

No BoatyBalls at White Bay presently.

Re: Boatyball [Re: Memphré] #214301
01/16/2020 08:34 AM
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You won the lottery. Next trip you will not be as happy unless of course you pay the 473 dollar early booking fee.
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Re: Boatyball [Re: GeorgeC1] #214303
01/16/2020 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeC1
You won the lottery. Next trip you will not be as happy unless of course you pay the 473 dollar early booking fee.
G

Exactly. Every time I read about BB, something new has come up making it harder to win the BB lottery. Previously it was preferential reservations for booking your charter through them (or something along those lines.) Now we hear this one...pay double and get to book a day ahead. All this takes inventory out of the 7:00am race to reserve a ball.
Wonder who all this new advance money goes to?


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Re: Boatyball [Re: Kirk] #214317
01/16/2020 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirk
Originally Posted by GeorgeC1
You won the lottery. Next trip you will not be as happy unless of course you pay the 473 dollar early booking fee.
G


Wonder who all this new advance money goes to?

Not sure where the new money ends up BUT I do know where it is coming from, the BVI boaters willing to pay those prices.

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