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Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 10:04 AM
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Well, we're back home. Got back home at midnight last night. Our second to last day, our laptop crashed. In general, that wouldn't be a big deal, as it was old. But I had copied all my pictures from this trip onto the laptop and wiped my camera cards! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> So, other than the few pictures we uploaded here (smaller versions anyway), I have no pictures from the trip until the final day and a half.. We will try to see if we can resurrect the hard drive or not, but I'm not at all certain, since there's nothing else on there that's worth saving, so it's not worth putting a lot of money into.
AND...Miami was a freaking ZOO last night.. Our flight left SXM about 40 minutes late. Kind of weird, they held a TOTALLY full plane for 40 minutes, something about getting a medical clearance for someone to fly. We had no problem getting right to a gate and there is now a tram which took us from the gate to immigration, which was a very short walk. That's when things fell apart. The electronic kiosks weren't working right, as probably at least 1/3 of people were getting an "x" through their picture. Eric again was a lucky one and got the "x". Probably 15 minutes in the "x" line, and we waited maybe 20 minutes after that for luggage and then there was CUSTOMS. OMG!! We have never seen customs like that before. I honestly don't know how long we waited in the customs line but it was forever. It was 1 hour and 45 minutes from when our plane landed until we were through immigration and customs. Lots of people were missing flights. We were happy to 'only' have to drive 3 1/2 hours from there. The 'mobile app' thing was in place there, but I never actually saw anyone using it..
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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Well that all really does put a sad ending to an otherwise good vacation. Sorry to hear of all the issues but I guess you'll just have to schedule another trip to make up for it. Promise him anything, but give him frites fancais? Or you could always make them yourselves and I hear LGM has a great sale going on!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />
Respectfully,
pat
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 10:28 AM
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Yeah, I never did get those frites! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 10:38 AM
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Yes, we were on the 3 PM flight. We were on that exact same flight in December 2014 and had no problems..
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 10:53 AM
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Customs is supposed to be for control of what people are bringing into the country, like drugs or meat or fruits, etc., not security per se. Last night was craziness though...
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 12:36 PM
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We only travel internationally about two times a year now, so it probably wouldn't be worth our while, but one begins to wonder!
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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I believe the "x" machine is also for Canadians, so I think that won't help you. I don't know if the lines now are always as bad as they were last night, but last night, I was counting from when the wheels touched down until we were through immigration and customs and it was 1 hour 45 minutes. (Our plane was 25 minutes late landing, so I did not count that time in there.) Your mileage may vary. Before last night, we had often been through immigration and customs and out the door within around an hour. Last night we did have to wait for checked luggage, so without checked luggage, you could do it in 90 minutes.
Carol Hill
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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Wow, 2 hours for customs??? Ridiculous!! In December, we didn't have much delay at all in customs, basically walked straight through and just maybe 5 minutes for the 'x' line, and we were all through in less than an hour from when we landed. If this is going to be the case for Miami all the time, we may go for Global Entry also.
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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When you use the automated machine, you put your passport in, answer some questions, then you stand and have your picture taken by the machine. If your picture (or the whole paper, I can't remember which) has an X through it, you have to go through a more thorough screening line. If you have no X (which mine did not, but Eric's did), then you go straight through the immigration line. As Eric said, it seemed like almost every family, at least one of the family members had an "x", therefore of course, everyone would go through the "x" line, because they didn't want to be separated. I have no clue what causes a person to get an "x" on their form, but possibly it's totally random. So, if for instance, the machine randomly picks 10%, say, of people to get an "x", if there are 4 people in the family, now there are four people in the random pool, when they only intended 1. I don't know, it would be interesting to hear if it is a glitch in the machines themselves, or whether it is something to do with the camera or what, as to the reason why so many people are getting the 'x'..
There is a video playing on the AA screen before landing and, while I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to it, I believe they said that foreign nationals who had entered the US two times in the past few years could use the automated system..
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 02:37 PM
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Carol_Hill said: We only travel internationally about two times a year now, so it probably wouldn't be worth our while, but one begins to wonder! We only fly internationally once a year but domestic more than that. I know it's not a guarantee but we have always had TSA PRE on our boarding passes since getting Global Entry. 100.00 for 5 years is worth it for us.
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 02:41 PM
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Well, that's certainly a different issue, but a valid point. That has been stated here before, that pre-check wasn't guaranteed with Global Entry. But the video from the Customs and Immigration service which was playing on the AA screens sure seemed to say it was guaranteed.
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 05:46 PM
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Eric doesn't wear glasses, so that certainly wasn't it, as far as he was concerned.
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 07:47 PM
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Before this trip, we had been going twice a year since 2006 (usually from Miami) and usually clear immigration and customs within an hour of when the plane landed. Before this trip, it has not been bad at all. And Global Entry has only been available for what two years?? Anyway, we will closely follow others' reports from Miami for the next few months.
And, as I said in the original note, part of the rotten end was the laptop dying and --as of now, anyway -- losing all my pictures from the trip. That is a far more lasting problem than the return home.
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/24/2015 10:06 PM
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I am so distressed about the photos. I always seem to have a million copies of the same photos on the laptop and on my camera cards, so this time, I thought I would be more organized... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Mad.gif" alt="" />
Best wishes with your trip home. Sorry that we didn't get together on island.
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/25/2015 01:28 AM
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Carol_Hill said: I am so distressed about the photos. I always seem to have a million copies of the same photos on the laptop and on my camera cards, so this time, I thought I would be more organized... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Mad.gif" alt="" />
Best wishes with your trip home. Sorry that we didn't get together on island. Without any indication of what actually 'died' with the laptop, it's hard to say, but there are lots of programs available to pull data from 'failed' drives and even 'erased' memory cards. Surely Eric has some ideas to try for recovery? gary
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/25/2015 07:30 AM
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Treat yourself to some of those big french fries this weekend.
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Laugh.gif" alt="" /> I almost thought about making some here at home last night!
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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He thinks maybe it is just the power supply, which if so, possibly a fairly easy fix. However, will probably be at least the weekend before he can think about it.
Carol Hill
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Re: Rotten end to a great trip!
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06/25/2015 12:29 PM
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I actually don't think that weather had anything to do with it, certainly not weather in the northeast US. Our plane landed without any trouble and we went straight to a gate and the other flights coming in were all international, mostly from the Caribbean. We were late leaving SXM, but that was because of the supposed medical issue with a passenger. I have no idea how security was and whether there were backups of planes leaving Miami, as we drove from there. As far as affecting OUR trip, whatever crap was going on was isolated to C & I.
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