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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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05/10/2016 10:34 AM
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LIST ==================== Is this list current and accurate? What happened to Le Flamboyant and Mercure? They offered AI in the past, do they still offer it? Optional or mandatory? =================== Is it bad or good? I think it serves a purpose.
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
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05/10/2016 10:38 AM
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I detect something else possibly amiss in the list. Azure Hotel is an a/i @ $78/night?
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
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05/10/2016 10:55 AM
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To each their own. I did an AI, in Jamacia, a dozen years ago and would never do it again. It's the same as a cruise, I have never done one and never will.
As far as whether or not it is good for the countries where it is in place, just look where it can be found and look at the surrounding communities and the host country.
AI is meant to mostly benefit the property owner. It allows the property owner to capture the majority of money that is spent per guest. Fewer and fewer dollars filter into the local economy.
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
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05/10/2016 11:02 AM
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Azure doesn't have a restaurant, as far as I know, and neither does Princess Heights. And no way it is a/i for $121 a night at Princess Heights. I don't think either one of them offer a/i. Divi does offer a/i, but their price is wrong also, I think.
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
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05/10/2016 12:05 PM
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I certainly agree that a/i in SXM is a waste, but I am still kind of curious as to why some officials think it is bad in general for the country.
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
[Re: bdeeley]
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05/10/2016 12:30 PM
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[quote]bdeeley said: To each their own. I did an AI, in Jamacia, a dozen years ago and would never do it again. It's the same as a cruise, I have never done one and never will.
You have got to be kidding. Obviously you have never been to Sandals. There is no comparison to a cruise, other than the food is free. No crowds, no kids, 6 restaurants, free flowing top shelf liquors, hundreds of people not thousands
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
[Re: OllieEh]
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05/10/2016 01:26 PM
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Actually, I guess that makes sense, if the person stays only at the resort, they pay for everything up front, and the parent company gets all the money.
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
[Re: JulieandKarl]
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05/15/2016 05:26 PM
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JulieandKarl said: A/I is just bad overall - mediocre food and weak drinks. And this was a very upscale A/I not in SXM As I said earlier, I guess you have not been to Sandals or Couples. The food and service is amazing. I think your statement is a a bad generalization.
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
[Re: sail2wind]
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05/15/2016 07:40 PM
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I'm inclined to agree with you though I'm thinking the negative responses are perhaps generalizations and the negative tones are directed more to AI on St. Martin rather than AIs in general, and particularly not aimed at Couples and Sandals resorts.
We've done AI on a few first visits to destinations, and often the prices have been very hard to pass on. Because you've booked AI it doesn't mean you're wedded to a specific restaurant and have to take every meal there. We've often used the feature for breakfasts and occasional drinks and depending on the island, we have generally gone off the grid and enjoyed dinners where and when the spirit moved us. But it's still reassuring to know in a new place where your meals are coming from until you get a feel for the lay of the land.
A few years back we were going to Hawaii and our TA suggested we should consider an AI option for one of the hotels we were staying in. We were so glad we took her advice and did because the ala carte prices for breakfast were off the wall crazy. We even did a partial dinner option - I think it was four dinners at our home resort - so while not a true AI, it was basically the same thing. We've also done AI in Mexico, St. Kitts, the Bahamas and in Grenada - all with no regrets.
That said, and knowing it's not the norm here in the States to get the same pricing, some of the great deals our Canadian friends get on AI on SXM are incredible and I wouldn't hesitate to book it if only for the drinks, lunches and breakfasts, which alone would cost more than the airfare we've paid so eating dinner out becomes almost a non-issue.
But what I wouldn't do is book AI on SXM and consider myself locked in to only eating there. Too many great places to experience.......<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Is All Inclusive bad for a country?
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05/15/2016 09:40 PM
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sail2wind said:
As I said earlier, I guess you have not been to Sandals or Couples. The food and service is amazing. I think your statement is a a bad generalization. I have been to Sandals once and was not impressed at all. My statement is an opinion based upon my experiences and my desires. We have differing opinions, get over it.
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