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Bomb scare hoax at PJA??

Posted By: SXMScubaman

Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 11/26/2015 01:50 AM

Here is the full scoop. https://www.thedailyherald.sx/islands/53725-bomb-scare-hoaxes-cause-confusion-among-residents
Posted By: lovemysxm

Re: Bomb threat at PJA - 11/26/2015 03:08 AM

Why do we have subject lines like this. We are here now - this is not an issue. Is this what this forum wants to talk about?
Posted By: SeaStar

Re: Bomb threat at PJA - 11/26/2015 03:28 AM

Unfortunately, it is the world we live in and personally I want to be aware of what is going on and what I may encounter on my upcoming trip wherever that may be. It will not stop me from traveling unless my presence is a hindrance.
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Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Bomb threat at PJA - 11/26/2015 03:39 AM

The last threads posted a lot of confusing info on this issue. This was posted by me to help clarify the facts of this instance. Don't like it, don't read it.
Posted By: Bahston

Re: Bomb threat at PJA - 11/26/2015 10:11 AM

It's what this forum SHOULD talk about when it is real. Understanding the facts is important.

If you prefer to talk about unicorns and rainbows then you can do that too.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Bomb threat at PJA - 11/26/2015 11:59 AM

I posted similar information a few days ago here.

Bear in mind, newspapers sometimes print erroneous information also and just because it is on the internet does not make it fact.

I have no idea in this case but there does appear to be conflicting information.

I am going to change the heading of your post to hopefully better reflect the situation.
Posted By: AnnandSteve

Re: Bomb threat at PJA - 11/26/2015 12:10 PM

This post helped explain the SPECIFIC road closures we got stuck in that day.
Thank you
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb threat at PJA - 11/26/2015 01:59 PM

I noted your link at the time and wondered if there was anything new on it. Sure took a while for the police to admit that they gave out incorrect information.
Posted By: dlbert

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 11/27/2015 04:28 AM

Many Thanks SXMSCUBAN, maybe this is now the closure of the non-event.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/04/2016 03:41 PM

They caught the person responsible.
https://www.thedailyherald.sx/islands/54521-man-arrested-for-bomb-threat
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/04/2016 04:34 PM

There is a lot more to the story then what has been reported. The person arrested is a well known member on SXM groups on Facebook. He is innocent until proven guilty. Lets see how all this plays out in court.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/04/2016 04:42 PM

...and we will not engage in speculation here.
Posted By: SXMSAMMY

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/04/2016 09:20 PM

SXMScubaman not to drown your boat, but he is a suspect that was arrested and not proven guilty as of yet, as Carol would say. Even the newspaper says that he is a suspect. We need to wait out and see all the evidence and what his defense has to say about the evidence, witnesses and such.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/06/2016 07:04 PM

According to a story in today's Daily Herald, which I did not find in the online edition, only the full edition, the judge has extended the suspect's detention for another 8 days. Based on that, I assume they think they have some solid evidence in the case.
Posted By: WayneB

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/13/2016 07:54 PM

Carol, any updates on this story in the full version? I was leaving the island the day this happens, and saw armed soldiers near the airport that day, and was unaware of what was happening until I got home. What a mess.
Posted By: Todd

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/13/2016 10:16 PM

I am interested in this as well, I was around the airport when this all went down. Police keeping everybody where they were near Maho not letting people leave or walk over to the beach from the main road area. Police all around the road around the airport as well. It was nuts, and then, Air France took off and the police vanished like a fart in the wind.

Cheers,
Todd
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/13/2016 11:18 PM

There was nothing in the DH as of today, although I hear that possibly there will be something in the DH tomorrow, although I do NOT know what it is. If and when there is something there that is not in the online version, I will post it.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/14/2016 02:45 PM

Nothing in the DH today either. Sorry.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 01/19/2016 02:55 PM

According to a story in today's DH, the suspect went before the Judge again yesterday and his detention was extended another 30 days. The story is not online apparently, but that's all it said, other than repeating the original details, that he was arrested as he arrived on island on Christmas Day.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 02/16/2016 06:20 PM

The Today Newspaper says that the suspect has another hearing scheduled for tomorrow. Today story It doesn't really say what the hearing is FOR, but I guess maybe another review of detention?
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 02/18/2016 02:51 PM

So far, I don't see the story online, but according to a story in today's Daily Herald, the case has been continued to March 23. The suspect is quoted as saying that he didn't do it and the phone records will show it. The prosecutor stated that there were 9 separate 911 calls made to police from the suspect's phone on that date.
Posted By: WayneB

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 02/18/2016 05:13 PM

Thanks for the updated info, Carol.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 02/18/2016 09:00 PM

Article Today from 721 News
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/23/2016 10:50 PM

An Update to the story. Prosecutor is asking for 18 month jail sentence and a $10,000 fine. Decision due in 3 weeks.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/23/2016 11:32 PM

Sorry, he had previously been convicted of a bomb scare?? Wow..
Posted By: pat

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/23/2016 11:36 PM

Is this someone who lives on the island or a visitor to it? Sounds like he's in a whole heap of trouble. Assuming this report is all correct, I wouldn't want to be standing in his shoes about now. How can anyone be such a jerk.....What a stupid thing to do....... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/23/2016 11:42 PM

He lives on the island now....in the prison.

All kidding aside, he didn't live on the island before his arrest, but he was a frequent visitor.
Posted By: pat

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/23/2016 11:46 PM

Well, at least for the next year or so I guess.....

All I can think of is how could someone be so inconsiderate and truthfully, that stupid when you consider the possible ramifications of doing something like that. I guess it takes all kinds...... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: indi

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 12:47 AM

Not taking sides here, but the facts are unknown.
And the SXM justice system is not like the US justice system.

Justice is best served when all the facts are presented to a jury of our peers.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 01:12 AM

Don't know, the verdict has apparently not been rendered yet. BUT IF!! the story is true that the suspect has previously been convicted of a false bomb threat, that really says a lot..
Posted By: pat

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 01:53 AM

I'm not taking sides either, Joyce, but if the published article is to be believed, there must be enough facts available to draw the conclusions drawn if they've held the man for a few weeks or months and the prosecutor is asking for jail time and a considerable fine. And if it is true, it's a terrible thing to have done anywhere by anyone. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 10:25 AM

From the Daily Herald today.

Take it for what it is worth but IF this is all true, it is not pretty.

UPDATE
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 11:22 AM

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indi said:
Not taking sides here, but the facts are unknown.
And the SXM justice system is not like the US justice system.

Justice is best served when all the facts are presented to a jury of our peers.


I'm not sure how you can say the facts are unknown. The case has been presented to the judge, testimony under oath has been given, and previous criminal records have been researched. While I agree that our court system is superior to the Dutch system, this took place on Dutch soil, so their system applies.

People are not always who they seem to be, and sadly, it seems that this man is a prime example of that.
Posted By: PreK176

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 12:48 PM

You're right Georgia....sounds like facts have been presented in court and they aren't pretty. SXM operates by their own laws/rules, not ours. This guy had a lot of people fooled and actually still does. Feel sorry for his family.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 01:26 PM

Just based on what I read from the DH, people in SXM are often found NOT guilty in circumstances where I think they would be found guilty in the US. And the state of the forensic resources that are available there is just not what it is in the US. In the US, those 911 calls would have been taped and they could do a voice ID to determine for sure who made the calls. I have to assume that the convictions in the US are proven to be him, which if so, says an awful lot. Bomb threats AND defrauding a church out of $100,000....
Posted By: indi

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 02:53 PM

Georgia, I meant to say that the facts are unknown to those who have not been in court or seen the transcripts....we only know what we read in the paper.
Having said that, if it's true that he had prior convictions, the evidence points toward his guilt.
Posted By: islandgem

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 03:21 PM

I truly hope justice is served and this man gets what he deserves! Definitely not a good human being and it seems has misled many people over the years. A stiffer sentence would be more appropriate!
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 04:28 PM

I understand, Joyce. Since the same story has been repeated by multiple news sources, I tend to believe that the facts are indeed being reported. I feel sorry for his family.
Posted By: Todd

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 05:59 PM

** Edited** I was just recently forwarded another link to a story regarding "a" Brian with the same last name. I can not confirm that this is the same Brian so I am editing my comment. I am leaving the link in case somebody can add more light to this. I hold to my opinions of him however as stated below.

web page

Regardless, it would seem to me that this man is trouble and troubled, and really needs some extra time past the minimal time he may spend on this charge. My personal opinion is he is a POS, and I feel for his family.

With the record he has I would guess he can run for office soon. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />

Cheers!
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 06:06 PM

Todd-I kind of doubt this is the same person. Rymer is an EXTREMELY common name on Tortola...
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 03/24/2016 11:17 PM

I talked by email with someone who lives on Tortola and they really don't think this is the same person at all. As I said, Rymer is a very common name on Tortola. Not sure why whoever sent you that link thought they were connected to begin with???
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 04:48 PM

According to Facebook post and the Today website, Bryan Rymer was sentenced to 12 months in prison. They are also filing an appeal.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 05:03 PM

"The court rejected claims for damages from the police and the fire department because they are not legal entities"?? Huh?? Not sure what that means. The police and fire department on SXM consists of people who just show up from time to time?? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Laugh.gif" alt="" /> Obviously, that can't be what the ruling actually was..
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 05:18 PM

I thought that was odd too, Carol. Maybe it's because they're government entities and not private businesses.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 05:22 PM

Government entities get reimbursement from convicted criminal defendants all the time in the US. Not sure about SXM though.
Posted By: islandgem

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 05:36 PM

Twelve months is certainly not long enough for committing this crime since he has also committed crimes in the past. It appears he is a very dangerous individual and doesn't learn from his mistakes.
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 06:18 PM

The wife is saying on facebook that he has no prior criminal history and that someone was feeding some bad info to the press.
Posted By: kim

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 06:31 PM

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wilsonck said:
Rumor has it he has no prior criminal history. Someone was feeding some bad info to the press.


I saw that as well - from someone saying she was his wife I think. All very very bizarre. Also saw on appeal they already have the proof that he didn't have the phone in question on him at the time of the call Hmmm
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 06:47 PM

Yes, rumors, many of them. None of which make any sense. If you can have proof of your innocence within a couple of months, why would you allow the case to go to trial and not get a continuance?? And as far as his supposed criminal record, I had thought there was a public pronouncement of that by the prosecutor?? Not sure.
Posted By: kim

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 06:49 PM

Exactly!
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 06:52 PM

Yes, that was from his wife, but I don't really believe it now. There is a post in another facebook group, that this was his elebrate plan to setup some up for revenge and try to ruin their life. I think they got the right guy in the end. Just surprised he did not get any fines levied.
Posted By: PreK176

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 07:08 PM

Right, bizarre indeed. I have friends who were involved in testifying. There is more to this guy than is being released but he still has people who believe he must be innocent, in spite of the proof and conviction. He claimed that my friend had his phone but evidence showed this was a lie. Most people really don't believe that his wife posted on his behalf as supposedly she has changed her name and not with him. The poster used the same grammatical errors that he usually makes. The guy had months to come up with a defense but now that he has been convicted and sentenced says he has proof he isn't guilty? In all honesty this guy has been giving a lot of people problems for several months. He isn't who his "friends" think he is.
Posted By: klynn8220

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 08:33 PM

So then if the prosecutor stated this in court you're saying she fed bad information?
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 08:44 PM

No, I am not saying that. I have amended my post to state the source of that info. I think they have got the right guy and he is just grasping at anything he can to say he is innocent.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/13/2016 11:15 PM

I wonder if any of these "friends" might be implicated before this is all said and done?? After all, if it is on facebook, it MUST be true??

I really don't have a clue what happened but just because you read something on a facebook group page (private at that so not all can read) does not make it the gospel.

He may be innocent and he may be guilty but this "hearsay" is over the top.
Posted By: AnnandSteve

Re: Bomb scare hoax at PJA?? - 04/14/2016 01:24 AM

Not legal entities? Clearly I do not understand Dutch law.
He sounds like a very mentally unstable individual. I feel for his wife and kids, he certainly ruined their Christmas holiday. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
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