TravelTalkOnline

Airfare from NY

Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 02:42 PM

Just curious if anyone has had some recent experience with airfares from JFK. Last SXM trip was Nov 2014. Remember non-stop booked summer 2014 was in the low 500's. I know being locked into Saturday travel for Timeshare sux but best I am seeing now is $640. Normal?
Posted By: Kathleen

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 03:10 PM

JetBlue hasn't released their schedule for November yet. I usually wait til that comes out and then book right away for the best price. I'm a little annoyed with them now because of their new pricing. We used to get free bags when we booked; now you have to go to their next fare class. We may consider Delta this time. They fly out of JFK too. Used them last February and was impressed.
Posted By: magic228

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 03:18 PM

JFK Feb.25th. Mar.14th $460.00 Delta. Booked about 6 weeks ago.
Posted By: Dansc

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 03:18 PM

Careful with delta. Took them a few years ago went through atlanta. What hell that was!
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 03:39 PM

Quote
Dansc said:
Careful with delta. Took them a few years ago went through atlanta. What hell that was!


Delta now does offer at least one non-stop from JFK to SXM.
Posted By: boucharda

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 03:53 PM

Quote
We used to get free bags when we booked; now you have to go to their next fare class. We may consider Delta this time.


Next fare class adds an average of $17-18 and Delta charges $25 for a bag so I would think that would be a wash. I would go with the airline and the flight I feel most comfortable with
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 05:24 PM

Sorry I wasn't specific as to when we are going. These are the non stop rates for late July. Delta is $640 and Jet Blue is mid 700's for 7:30 return and mid 800's for the 3:20 return. Those are approx. times. I was shocked when I saw them
Posted By: boucharda

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 06:03 PM

Wow! What is with July?...BOS is even higher (JB) at $1000 and no N/S. MAybe it's too early. Checked available seats and there aren't too many filled

I only travel to warm places when it is cold at home and fares from BOS are never that bad in January.
Posted By: NJHarry

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 06:14 PM

Hi Rick and Grace, I've been following airfares from JFK, Newark and Philadelphia (July departure) for quite some time. I'm seeing higher fares for Jetblue (JFK), American (Phil) and Delta (Phil/Newark). My assumption is they 'can' raise fares since United has cut back on their flights from Newark.
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 07:40 PM

So much for saving money on fuel costs!!!! I honestly thought low 500's would be about right. I'll keep checking.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 07:43 PM

I certainly wouldn't give up for July yet. One would think there will be at least one fare sale before July, since that quite a while away and is low season.
Posted By: Tom

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 08:11 PM

We have flown a number of different airlines over the past 25+ years but this time we flew Delta for the first time since they now fly out of Harrisburg. Got to say the people and amenities were head and shoulders above the others. Free stuff (movies/head sets/snacks) that others are charging for. Considerate personnel (maybe we were just lucky) but I will try to fly Delta next year. And yes, Atlanta was a zoo on our return but not much different from CLT, BLT or PHL that we've been returning through for many years.
Posted By: Kathleen

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 08:28 PM

However, with a Delta credit card, you get one bag allowed per person. JetBlue doesn't have that benefit with bookings made on their credit card. JetBlue is changing their credit card issuer in March from Amex to MasterCard. We'll see if they change their card benefits then or not.
Posted By: RonDon

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 09:53 PM

Quote
Kathleen said:
However, with a Delta credit card, you get one bag allowed per person. JetBlue doesn't have that benefit with bookings made on their credit card. JetBlue is changing their credit card issuer in March from Amex to MasterCard. We'll see if they change their card benefits then or not.

I'm paying less this year than we did in 2014 on JB for March. I figure the slight increase on the ck'd-bag tier is less than other airlines charge for a bag and now I can book one with no bag for less where as before we ch'd only one bag and both paid the same fare. I think what JB has done is give a break to the guy who does only carry-on, not charge for a bag. That fee was included in the old one price fare.
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 11:09 PM

We flew Delta in Nov 2014. I have never had an issue with Delta. When I was working and traveling for business I spent a lot of time in Atlanta. Familiar with the airport and Delta. I use their credit card for the free bags.

I just checked Jet Blue again and the airfare for the morning departure south and the afternoon departure north is now over $900.
Posted By: pat

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 11:24 PM

Yikes!! That's ridiculous......I'd wait for a sale myself and with those numbers I'd also be checking AA and Delta for sure. We've actually paid less than that for high season AA r/t in Business for Saturday n/s flights, and they allow you three bags each with the weight limit of 70# each.......
Posted By: pat

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/27/2016 11:32 PM

Another thought......clean out your cookies and log out completely from the website and then log in again and start from square one to see if that makes a difference ......... I've heard lots of people say they track logins through cookies and raise the prices with more logins. I've never really paid all that much attention but I've read it many times over. Also, you can try Yapta to check and track the fares. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: jazzgal

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 12:09 AM

Quote
pat said:
Another thought......clean out your cookies and log out completely from the website and then log in again and start from square one to see if that makes a difference ......... I've heard lots of people say they track logins through cookies and raise the prices with more logins. I've never really paid all that much attention but I've read it many times over. Also, you can try Yapta to check and track the fares. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />


If you use Firefox instead of IE, you can use "private browsing" and don't have to bother with clearing your cookies.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 12:14 AM

Pretty high-tech there pat!!

Using a different browser is also a good suggestion and I think Google Chrome allows private browsing.
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 12:35 AM

Just tried Private Browser through Safari. Sam Ting
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 12:37 AM

Quote
pat said:
Yikes!! That's rediculous......I'd wait for a sale myself and with those numbers I'd also be checking AA and Delta for sure. We've actually paid less than that for high season AA r/t in Business for Saturday n/s flights, and they allow you three bags each with the weight limit of 70# each.......


My jaw still hurts from hitting the table
Posted By: pat

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 12:51 AM

Trust me, JD - I have no clue what all that means but I know I've read it here time and time again and we all know, if you read it on the internet it's got to be true. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 01:01 AM

"I heard" that!! Got to be true if you say it!!

When I grow up and get a smart phone will you tutor me on using it?
Posted By: pat

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 01:23 AM

Sure! Just ask Kim or Sharon. They can both tell you what a pro I am. So! Is there a difference between an IM and a text message? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 01:34 AM

Probably but I don't know what it is!
Posted By: The_Lurker

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 12:19 PM

One of the biggest problems IMO is finding the day an airline flies non-stop. I usually book the hotel before the airline and often find the day I booked AA one year ,non-stop, is not the same the next year. I then try to rebook the hotel hoping that the non-stop day doesn't change again or disappear.

I just checked Delta for November and found that they only fly JFK to SXM, non-stop, on Mondays and Wednesdays. I am going on a Tuesday and don't want to change the hotel again.
There are also certain days they don't fly to SXM, which makes me nervous about a cancellation due to mechanics or weather.
It's all a gamble..... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/smashpc.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 01:00 PM

Quote
I just checked Delta for November and found that they only fly JFK to SXM, non-stop, on Mondays and Wednesdays.


According to the Delta site, a non-stop is offered every day but Tuesday in November from JFK.

I plugged in random dates for Nov. 2016 and saw fares starting in the mid-$400 range and up to $900 for non-stops from JFK. Fares changed drastically depending on the day of the week with Saturday being the highest.

Posted By: boucharda

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 01:08 PM

Quote

However, with a Delta credit card, you get one bag allowed per person.


Good point <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: WaynenKathy

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 02:46 PM

We booked for March 15th and paid around $400 on Delta but we booked 4 months ago. I just looked and the non-stop @ 8:35 AM out of JFK and it's $501.

Delta is now doing the non-stop daily from JFK.
Posted By: DblJ369

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 03:41 PM

I'm noticing higher than normal airfare from PHL to SXM, AUA and GCM. I assume it is because there is less competition and less flights available now that US Air no longer exists. It really stinks and I loathe AA but almost have no other choice for non stop flights from PHL.
Posted By: Dansc

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 03:42 PM

i think the problem is it is july and the airlines cut back capacity dramatically in the off season meaning their are fewer flights to choose from. I would bet those fares start coming down as you get closer and they are looking at a hlaf empty plane. Good luck!
Posted By: RonDon

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 04:33 PM

Quote
WaynenKathy said:
We booked for March 15th and paid around $400 on Delta but we booked 4 months ago. I just looked and the non-stop @ 8:35 AM out of JFK and it's $501.

Delta is now doing the non-stop daily from JFK.


We booked JB for March 12-26 and it was $325 to go and $385 return. Always higher to come back wonder if that's because the airline knows they gotcha 'cause you have to return?
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 04:41 PM

They wouldn't do that, would they? (He asked. Tone dripping with sarcasm)
Posted By: WaynenKathy

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 05:03 PM

RonDon we will be there at the same time --March 15th arrival. We are at the Aloha Bar on Orient Beach everyday @ 2 PM.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 05:05 PM

Possibly higher airport fees, etc. leaving SXM. Remember, the airport departure fee is part of the return ticket.
Posted By: islandgem

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 05:10 PM

Yes, the return fare is always higher than the original fare. The departure tax is probably the reason for that, but it is annoying. In the past that fee was paid separately and not included by the airlines in the fare.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 06:09 PM

Elizabeth--sorry, I don't understand, you would rather stand in another line to leave? Or do you mean you would prefer not to pay it at all? Since it's my personal experience that ALL taxes, once instituted, are forever, I'd much rather have the departure tax included in the airfare and save myself another line.
Posted By: Dansc

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 07:55 PM

agreed carol!
Posted By: Dansc

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 07:56 PM

agreed carol! i hated that line and the fact that i always forgot to have the cash!
Posted By: Sandy471

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 08:15 PM

Booked about 2 weeks ago on Jet Blu for end of April and total was $1057 for 2 out of JFK. Bought the Blu Plus option for 1 bag allowed direct. Since I booked the Yapta has been sending me alerts and the same flights now would be $1233.
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 08:21 PM

United from Newark....$970

Un-expletive-believable
Posted By: toothdoc

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 08:28 PM

We used Delta last year and the bags going to SXM and coming home were NOT for free no matter what! Check with them carefully. It's the only place they charge for bags. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 08:36 PM

Quote
toothdoc said:
We used Delta last year and the bags going to SXM and coming home were NOT for free no matter what! Check with them carefully. It's the only place they charge for bags. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />


Pretty sure pat was referring to American Business Class and the no charge for bags.

I do think if you have a certain Delta credit card you do get ONE checked bag at n/c.

Quote
We've actually paid less than that for high season AA r/t in Business for Saturday n/s flights, and they allow you three bags each with the weight limit of 70# each.......
Posted By: islandgem

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 09:04 PM

I definitely prefer having the tax included with the airfare. I was just stating the reason for the increase in the return fare because of it as JD mentioned. We always had to pay it before and standing in line was a real pain for sure.
Posted By: pat

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 09:11 PM

That is correct. J.D. At this time we are booked on AA for our April trip. The flight number has changed a few times but it's still Business Class and it does still exist as a nonstop flight. The AA baggage allowance guides say three free checked bags pp and I'm almost certain the weight allowance is 70 pounds each though that could be old history. That last is really a nonissue though, since I know for a fact there's NO WAY I would ever bring that amount of luggage to SXM for our typical two week plus trip - it's St. Maarten and a medium sized bag each leaves us lots of room for extras and there have been a few trips we've done legal sized carry-on only and that's worked, too, though I do have to think a little more about packing to do that. The two med. bags usually allow us half a bag full of clothes that never get worn and room for some extras too. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: kim

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 09:26 PM

Quote
ruralcarrier said:
Pretty high-tech there pat!!

Using a different browser is also a good suggestion and I think Google Chrome allows private browsing.


Did my mother really say all that????
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 09:27 PM

She was way beside herself in tech last night!
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 10:08 PM

OK.
Posted By: The_Lurker

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/28/2016 10:37 PM

Quote
ruralcarrier said:
Quote
I just checked Delta for November and found that they only fly JFK to SXM, non-stop, on Mondays and Wednesdays.



According to the Delta site, a non-stop is offered every day but Tuesday in November from JFK.

I plugged in random dates for Nov. 2016 and saw fares starting in the mid-$400 range and up to $900 for non-stops from JFK. Fares changed drastically depending on the day of the week with Saturday being the highest.





I called and was told only Monday and Wednesday had non-stop.
(I couldn't find it on the computer)
Of course we are booked Tuesday to Tuesday for 2 weeks.

PS
I just checked their website and there are non-stop everyday but Tuesday (of course lol) Who was I talking to at Delta??
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 02:12 AM

Very odd as they should see at least the same screen we see and probably a more detailed one at that. When I get an answer over the phone that I question, I always call back and work my way up the ladder if needed.
Posted By: crsxm

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 11:08 AM

We booked two weeks for Sat/Sat (two weeks) in July and the flight's gone up over $200 since then. Non stop on JB was slightly over $1,000 today. The airlines will continue to push timeshare travelers to other destinations given the Sat/Sat or Sun/Sun restrictions placed on TS owners--certainly won't help the economy on the Island.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 11:13 AM

Some timeshares run Fri./Fri. so it is not restricted to just weekends. Regardless of the destination, if most are Sat. & Sun. you would have the same problem traveling elsewhere.

Perhaps I am mistaken but don't timeshares with "points" allow the owner to choose arrival days?
Posted By: boucharda

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 12:35 PM

Quote
Quote
if most are Sat. & Sun. you would have the same problem traveling elsewhere.


You beat me to that thought. I do think most everywhere are Fri/Sat/Sun arrivals. Of course our last exchange was Thurs/Thurs (Las Vegas)

This will be an issue with all destinations that rely on a high percentage of timeshare users.

I checked BOS-Aruba and the same date fares are also over four figures Sat-Sat...BUT...Wed fares are over $900 also

Just high prices because they can....
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 12:41 PM

And the majority of cruises are weekend departure/return so that factors into the weekend air demand also to various places.
Posted By: boucharda

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 12:49 PM

Funny...I check out Farecompare.com for interesting articles on travel and just saw this...

Quote
The cheapest days to fly are unpopular travel days; Tuesdays, Wednesday and Saturdays. Expensive days: The most expensive days to fly are the most popular days; Fridays and Sundays.


Guess it depends on where you are going...
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 12:51 PM

You would not have the business travel on Saturday's as most of that would be non-weekend days. Vacation travel would likely be most heavy on the weekend as we well know.
Posted By: islandgem

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 05:38 PM

Yes, JD you are correct. Points timeshares do not have specific arrival or departure dates. That is a big plus if using points...no restrictions.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/29/2016 05:50 PM

Thanks. I thought that to be the case but I was not sure.
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/31/2016 12:05 PM

Prices the last few days are headed higher and not lower. Holy Carp!!! (sp)
Posted By: Grammiemarge

Re: Airfare from NY - 01/31/2016 02:08 PM

Airfare for 7/30-8/13 JFK-SXM n/s, $1,276 ea. for 3 passengers Thur. 7/28-Sat.8/13 $940 ea. I will rent for 2 nites at Simpson Bay & Marina a 2BR. in the Marina Bldg. for $130 per nite. It's a no-brainer. Price is for 1st class 3 passengers.
© 2019 TravelTalkOnline