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Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days

Posted By: pat

Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/07/2017 05:30 PM

So many things we loved about SXM have changed and we often wish we could return to the happy memories of long ago. Roads that were more like paths; great restaurants hidden in places you couldn't imagine; and the freedom to wander the island without fear of anything worse than a flat tire in the outback......

So many places we loved and lost but for me, the biggest one has to be the Mullet Bay Resort which was my introduction to St. Maarten so many years ago and the restort we primarily visited for the first fifteen years we visited the island. Many an evening spent at the Sweet Tooth or the Grand Casino and the wonderful days lounging under a palapa on the beach at Mullet. Their sunday evening BBQs were great and the entertainment and dancing afterward was always fun. And the Frigate - my favorite island restaurant back in the day. So sad to see all the changes..........and all the wonderful things that today are but happy memories of days gone by.

Does anyone else have this type of memory? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: RonDon

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/07/2017 07:22 PM

We remember not seeing any car rentals on island and when you took a cab you told the driver when to pick you up and that you'd pay upon return. Cab was always there.

Remember when Grand Case restaurants had only two seatings 7:30 & 9pm and everyone smoked inside.

West Indies Tavern (now Guavaberry shack) and their .99 happy hour.

Little Bay Beach & Racket Club (pre Divi) a family owned place with a casino, several rooms of different music venues and great food.

Great Bay hotel before Sonesta bought it.

Back Street bakery with delights to equal Sarafina's. Back street was dirt then.

Locals selling wears at the end of the dock.

No tv's. No stop lights, only traffic mirrors. But hardly any traffic.

Remember being able to hike to Pic Paradise with no fear.

Dirt roads on the Dutch side and paved on the French side.

Marigot bustling with shops & people.

To name a few good memories.
Posted By: charlieh

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/07/2017 07:53 PM

It is unreal to me that it wasn't that long ago when I first discovered Orient Beach and only saw sand, trees and ocean. I think there was one other car parked at that beach when we first went in 1987, as I only saw one other person.

I'm sure that Club O was there, but I never saw that part of the beach.

And yes, our rental had to be delivered to our hotel.
Posted By: jrr1148

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/07/2017 08:10 PM

Ah yes I remember it well... no guardrails on the hill to Philipsburg, the old road to Dawn Beach, the dirt parking lot in Philipsburg in back of the Government Offices (entry gate and arm installed after it was paved), Great Bay before the boardwalk, the "no man's land" portion of the road on the hill near the current Blue Mall, Marigot before new wharf area, two way traffic through the main road in Grand Case, GEBE brown outs (oh yes that still occurs today, restaurants of years ago - Zachary's in Point Blanche, Sint Maarten Ribs in P'burg, Sebastiano's in Grand Case, Cha Cha Cha in Grand Case, Fish Pot in Grand Case, Ric's Place in P'burg - later Simpson Bay.....
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/07/2017 08:43 PM

No developments or rental chairs on Pinel with a small motorized skiff as a ferry.
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/07/2017 08:45 PM

Our first visit to the island, the road 'over the hill' not only didn't have guard rails but it was actually under construction to expand it from the original dirt road to an actual paved two lane road. That first trip we were pretty content to stay at Mullet Resort and only rented a car for a half day tour of the island. We almost couldn't find Marigot and there was nothing BUT the original Club Orient and a lot of sea grape on all of Orient Beach. It was a spectacular site to see and experience. Nobody cared if you were naked or dressed because most times there was no one else there but you. In the very late 70s and early 80s we started to wander the island far more freely and widely and thus began our forty year plus love affair of SXM.
Posted By: Computerwise

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/07/2017 08:56 PM

1981, beautiful Mullet Bay resort with open air lobby check in, a real golf course, lunch by the beach in a real restuarant, A frame houses on Simpson Bay, My friends father's house on Simpson bay where Characters is now, unpaved roads on Dutch side, beautiful Marigot especially by the lagoon. had to use francs on French side, unspoiled Orient Beach with only 6 people on the whole beach, the old airport, Mrs Busby's and the other beach bar, picking up hitchhikers, a full beach with sand by the nude beach in Cupecoy with that beautiful rock sticking out of the water, being nude at the cave in Cupecoy (below the Cliffs) with 5 other couples, no power in the middle of the night, no traffic, very few people speaking English on the French side, when half the tourists on the Dutch side were Dutch, more topless women, very few timeshares, when most of the people on the beach were not overweight, when Mullet bay resort was the most beautiful and sophisticated place I had ever been to, no drugs, guns and crime, no cruise ship passengers, wild dogs and goats everywhere, when every store in Maho was occupied. It still paradise but wow was it better than... I wish many of you could have experienced it. It was the beginning of a love affair that has lasted a life time..beautiful when we were young, older and not as pretty but still committed...
Posted By: RonDon

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 02:14 PM

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pat said:
Our first visit to the island, the road 'over the hill' not only didn't have guard rails but it was actually under construction to expand it from the original dirt road to an actual paved two lane road. That first trip we were pretty content to stay at Mullet ,,,


And didn't you feel like Mullet was the end of the world?

Forgot to add our discovery of Orient. We were staying at hotel at LeGallion and walked down a path that opened up to a magnificent view. Because I was looking straight ahead I didn't notice a couple on the beach until the man asked if we'd be joining them.

There was nothing there except three naked couples; no chairs, no buildings, no anything but pristine beauty.
Posted By: RonDon

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 02:16 PM

Oh and in Marigot the water came up to the door of La Vie en Rose. That was before they filled in that area.
Posted By: fabila

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 02:33 PM

Although our first visit was later than some (2002) we too have seen many changes. There was a dirt road driving to Dawn beach where there was no condo’s, no Westin hotel. Ms B’s had her tent up as well as a couple of other beach/restaurant vendors including Scavengers. We loved Dawn Beach when we first started visited SXM. It was our beach of choice. Orient was well built up by the time we started visiting but Cupecoy still had no high-rises and the Cliffside bar/restaurant was a joy to sit at and watch the sun go down and drink a mudslide which was one of their specialties.

We visited Marigot often and fell in love with Bar de la mar where I ate the biggest grilled shrimp I had ever seen. The Caravanserai was a small 2 or 3 floor hotel where we stayed twice and Sunset Beach Bar was a small place where everyone who gathered easily talked about their visits and how great this and that was. We had many fun Halloween experiences at the Kissing Fish, SSBB and Lady C. The island has changed much in 15 years, many places are gone. People who we have met and became good friends have passed on and some no longer travel there. We are grateful to see the island at the end of this month for the 23rd time. Hoping for peace and safety.
Posted By: blackmercedes

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 02:36 PM

[color:"blue"]Remember the yellow airport? When you got off the plane on the tarmac and walked into the building where steel drums were being played. Picking up luggage in that hot, hot,old room. When leaving the island, having them open your luggage in front of everyone. Mine was always an overflowing MESS! Along with the countless wonderful places we always went to. And still do. It's tradition to go to the same places for some reason! Our best times were: Meeting our French young friends Silvana and Kelly, Dave's 50th bd party at Talouga Mango with some TTOL friends and musician, Flash Tropical, and picking up the thousands of beautiful pieces of sea glass on our secluded beach. SXM...Magical.[/color]
Posted By: islandlove

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 03:19 PM

I remember our first time at Mullet bay in 1991 for our honeymoon. Greeted at with a drink at the first stop when you drive in. All the little houses on the golf course. Wonderful restaurants and casino on the property and I loved the little bus that drove you around the mullet grounds. The beach had excellent restaurants and fun crab racing, etc.... AND yes lets not forget that little airport!!!!!!! St Maarten is still my favorite place!
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 03:22 PM

Other things that come to mind:

The incredible ribs at Zachary's
The oisseau at Bar de la Mer
The crab races at Mullet Beach
No Pelican timeshare - perhaps no timeshares at all......
Our first trip was a packaged trip and we didnt even have to claim luggage at the airport. It was delivered to our room at Mullet.
Dressing in formal wear EVERY night for dinner and casino time
Our first dinner at Antoine's and meeting the Captain and Madame
The first year we brought our girls and they brought their friends and the van we rented
Simpson Bay lagoon before it was built up - no Lee's or restaurant row like we have today
And one of our favorite memories after 1983 - driving past the outskirts of Marigot and checking to see if the goats (sheep?) were still climbing on and all over the row of derelict cars parked on the right.
The wonderful little restaurants you 'heard about' but had to struggle to find
No TVs, no telephones to speak of
And someone mentioned the open air front desk at Mullet - we were there the week it was built. We checked in at the inside office and checked out at the new open air reception desk all in the same trip
We were on the island and got to see some of the drawbridge being floated in place and likewise, when the causeway span was brought through the same bridge

So many wonderful memories of island days. Over a lot of years we have vacationed throughout the Caribbean on Anguilla, Aruba, Barbados, Bermuda, Grenada, Saba, St. John, St. Kitts, Vieques and the Bahamas and we've visited a lot of the other near islands via daytrips and island hopping as well, but I have to say, to this day - none of them has ever satisfied our wishlist the way St. Maarten - St. Martin has. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: RickandJulie

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 03:53 PM

The two things I will always remember. The first time I stepped off the plane onto the tarmac at the old airport and the first trip to Orient Beach Club beach. I was sure I had died and gone to heaven.
Posted By: Biturbo

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 04:18 PM

When the whole upper end of Orient, above Pedro's, was nothing but pristine beach. No need for umbrellas - one could just lie on a blanket under the sea grapes.
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 04:37 PM

Pedro's? When did they build that? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> I remember his barrel BBQ on the beach when you had to tell him you wanted lunch early or he might sell out and you'd go hungry. Oh, yes - I remember it well. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Computerwise

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 04:55 PM

Forgot to add playing Vollyeball at Le Gallion, such a beautiful setting.. My dream is to buy the place and restore it back to what it was...
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 05:05 PM

Cw,

Isn't it wonderful to both have the dreams and the memories as well? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Joy.gif" alt="" /> I consider myself to be incredibly fortunate in this. Just goes to show, there are definitely some benefits to getting just a little older!
Posted By: Computerwise

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 05:32 PM

I agree Pat, I am so glad I had a friend whose father owned a house on Simpson bay and was invited to stay. It was just after New years 1981. Arrived at night on AA to a rain storm. Next morning it was raining so hard you could not see the water and the house was literally 25 feet from the water. Asked a neighbor how the weather had been and they said it had been raining like this since before Xmas. I'm thinking this is going to be an awful vacation. Sun came out in the afternoon and stayed that way for 10 days. Later that day. drove right onto the runway at the airport because my friends father owned his own plane and he just arrived from PR via NJ after 4 stops. Unloaded 30 bags of groceries from ShopRite, a food chain in the northeast US. LOL. he did it to save money..like I do now when I bring my cooler down..lol.lol.lol <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 06:18 PM

My understanding is that area is in the nature preserve, so no building allowed there now, except whatever the government does.
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 06:43 PM

Doesn't that have something to do with why, after all these many years he's been there, they're finally trying to drive Chez Pat off the beach? Now that's a real crime IMO. He's taken care of that beach for as many years as I can remember and deserves to be there. We first discovered that beach finally when Granddaughter Number One was an infant and she's all 'growed up' these days.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/08/2017 07:33 PM

Yes, that is all part of the Reserve Naturelle.
Posted By: jerber160

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 02:58 PM

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RickandJulie said:
The two things I will always remember. The first time I stepped off the plane onto the tarmac at the old airport and the first trip to Orient Beach Club beach. I was sure I had died and gone to heaven.
Funny you should mention exiting the plane and the tarmac. It's one of my favorites too, that first blast of tropical air. I'd add the Princess Julianna airport bar.... I loved to kill time there before a return flight.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 05:10 PM

Which bar? The one upstairs at the old airport, or the one outside? I loved both of them, for different reasons. Upstairs had wonderful food and a lovely view of the planes. The one outside was, outside!! When you are minutes away from getting on a plane to the cold North, being able to be outside in the sun and have a drink was fabulous!!!
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 05:18 PM

Agree with both of you. Dear John, however, says one if his fondest memories was the ice cream bar upstairs and outside in the sun at the old airport. There's nothing quite lapping up a melting icream cone in the hot sun knowing you will soon be locked in an airplane for the next four hours and NOT knowing where the nearest lavatory is..... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Joy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Joy.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 05:58 PM

Aanother great find for us was LePavillion Restaurant in Simpson Bay back in the early 80's. Simpson Bay then was nothing like it is today and I think this was the only restaurant along the beach with the exception of Mary's Boon Guesthouse. There used to be some sort of construction plant, perhaps a cement plant? - and you turned in by it on the right just before the old bridge, and eventually as you snaked around back there you would come across the restaurant. The food was wonderful as was the service and it was definitely a favorite. We think it was destroyed in a hurricane but I'm not sure if that. So much of what we first knew on the island has been lost and so much new has taken its place.

The Food Center
Portofinos on Front St.
Pinocchio's also on Front St.
The original restaurant at Mary's Boon
The Frigate along with all the other Mullet Restaurants
Marks in Cul de Sac
Bobbys Marina in P'berg and the Seafood Galley Restaurant there
All of Dawn Beach Resort and Mullet Bay Resort
Midass Muffler at the foot of the hill heading to P'berg
Risdons take out stand and Risdons Ice Cream Shop by the pier in P'berg
The Parrott place
Some of the earlier radio personalities
The Philipsberg Rib Place - in P'berg and in Simpson Bay
Bertines up in the French Hills of LaSavanne
And the phone company in P'berg where you went to place a call home....
Lynettes in Simpson Bay

Along with so much more whose names and specifics I can't remember......

Those were the good old days on SXM that a few of us here were fortunate enough to have been a part of. And I can only imagine what my kids and Grands will recall as their "good old days" memories some day down the road...... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 06:21 PM

I do remember the Mideass Muffler, but I am happy to see that it is gone, as that roundabout there at the bottom of the hill has been SUCH an improvement!! I remember the first year we stayed on island was in 95, and we routinely spent 45 minutes going up and down the hill to get to Simpson Bay. THAT I don't miss at all!!!
Posted By: bdeeley

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 07:26 PM

Oh, the good old days.

I fondly remember when my waist was 32 inches, and I weighed 80 pounds less than I do now.

I fondly remember when I had washboard abs.

I fondly remember when I had a full head of hair.

I fondly remember when my weekly pill dispenser wasn't taking up an inordinate amount of space in my suitcase.

I fondly remember when I could smile at a pretty young lady walking down the beach and she would smile back and now they just look at you like you are an "old pervert"

I fondly remember when I could "spring up" from sitting on the sand and now I have to roll over onto my hands and knees and look for a piece of furniture to hold onto as I raise myself up.

Oh, the good old days!!

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Posted By: pburke40

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 07:38 PM

Le Pavillion and Marks in Cul de Sac = Heaven!
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 07:59 PM

Now, THAT was funny!!
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 08:37 PM

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Posted By: irina

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 08:44 PM

That truly was funny. And yes Pat, it was a cement plant. Went there once for cement and they were out!!!!!!!!!!!
And we used to walk to Kim Sha from SBYC and there was nothing in the way!
Outdoor shower at Indiana's after swim.
LOL
Cheers
irina
Posted By: SXMbeacher

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 09:35 PM

The good old days for us was way back in 2012 when we arrived by cruise ship for the day and went to Orient Beach not knowing much about it. We got a free rum punch and our chair rental from Pedro's, and then one from Perch, which was an eye opener! We returned for 7 days last April and will be back again this year! Seems like a lot changed just since 2012.
Posted By: blackmercedes

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/11/2017 11:49 PM

Yep! We are the same way. Hysterical comments. You should write a book!
Posted By: charlieh

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/12/2017 01:34 AM

Get 2 or 3 ti punches, and the good old days will be back.
Posted By: Tom

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/12/2017 12:25 PM

Those of us that share your memories used to laugh when people referred to the older folks being "invisible".
Now it's our turn to go unnoticed.
Prior to my first visit to Orient Beach,the girl giving me directions asked if I was going there to "see nude" or "be nude". I responded, "both".
In recent years I keep expecting people to offer me $ to cover up on OB.
Posted By: Rbailey

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/12/2017 06:35 PM

A few good memories –

Evening walk along Front Street after rijsttafel at the Wan Yang Doll and feeling perfectly safe.

Lunch at Sam’s while amusing ourselves watching the cruise ship passengers lugging their cheap booze back to the ship and being please with ourselves by not being part of it – that was when there were enough cruisers to be interesting but not enough to be obnoxious.

Chatrou stew at Mark’s in Cul de Sac.

Orient Beach when the only things there were Club O, Pedro’s, and a few souvenir shacks at the entrance. Or our first visit there, when there were literally only 2 other people on the entire beach.
Posted By: RonDon

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/12/2017 09:18 PM

Oh I had forgotten Wan Yang Dahl. Now I recall waiter asking us how many plates and hubby, confused, said we're just two. He then offered 10 or 20 and hubby said we're not THAT hungry. Settled for the smaller count and enjoyed every bit. When hubby asked what are we eating I said don't ask, enjoy.
Posted By: kbd

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/13/2017 03:27 AM

Long before the internet, we would hike over to Happy Bay on our February vacation and be the only couple on the beach the whole day. Just us and the goats on the hillside.Danny's shelter wasn't even there.
Posted By: RonDon

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 03/13/2017 01:12 PM

When we stayed at Great Bay hotel we opted for "Mountain View" not because it cost less but because we'd sit on our balcony and watch the goats climb down the hill and across the cars in the parking lot.

Didn't take much to amuse us then after a long day at the beach.
Posted By: Administrator

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 03:48 PM

Anyone have some new "old" memories to share?
Posted By: The_Lurker

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 04:31 PM

So many good memories!
Staying at Treasure Island and Cupecoy Beach club and walking down to Mullet Beach---we were young.

The nights in Marigot for dinner and festivities! We had our favorites there and spent so much time talking with the owners of those restaurants and stores.

We have found many new places to stay, eat, swim and have met so many wonderful people!

There are always going to be the changes, but there will be the new things to discovery and enjoy.

Our last for quite a few years has been Beachside Villas!!!
Posted By: foreversxm

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 04:55 PM

Back in the 90's the first thing we would do after getting off the plane is head for Mary's Boon to get on the list for dinner. It always filled up fast and they had a family style dinner different entrée each night...every night was great and fun. Honor Bar mixed your own drinks. They don't do that any more but still among my fav spots on SXM. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/dine.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 05:20 PM

We have so many SXM memories.......I could go on and on (as I so often do.......!)

Along with all the other memories I've posted in this thread early on, in the evenings after dinner we used to enjoy leaving the unit where we stayed at Mullet Resort and walking the golf course, being mindful of the sprinkling system - and yes, they did have one back then - down to the beach at Mullet and perhaps taking a dip. Some nights we'd walk out to Maho Beach. This was before the Towers or Royal Islander was built and there was no Maho village or Cheri's and only the earliest stages of what is now the Sonesta Resort. There was no Boat Bar or Sunset Beach Bar at the other end of the beach. The original Caravanserai Resort - the one before all the different timeshare ventures came into being - was the only place I recall on other end of the beach before it became residential. It was a one and a half lane undivided road at that time and there were probably more walkers than cars.

We would walk out and at about the point where the Boat Bar is today we'd sit in the sand and watch the last late landing plane come in over Maho Beach. On a good night we could spot the plane well out over the ocean and as it came closer, it's lights would become visible to us and shine on the waves and cause them to shimmer in the glow.

As the plane finally soared overhead it almost felt as if it was pulling the surf up to the road. There was virtually NOTHING in this area at the time and it was clearly a favorite parking spot for island couples who I guess also enjoyed watching the late plane arrive. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 05:28 PM

And the waitstaff at the Boon dressed in those pretty plaid dresses......we used to enjoy the fixed menu and would usually try to go the evenings they served the veal dijonaise medallions. After cocktails in the self-serve bar, they would announce dinner and just start serving. The amazing part to me was they always came around with offerings of seconds and thirds if you could manage them. And the warm apple pie ala mode as dessert? Oh, the memories!!
Posted By: bigbobthib

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 05:47 PM

French Baggett Toast at Turtle Pier! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DavidinChelseaMA

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 06:14 PM

So, we've been coming to SXM since 2011, with a timeshare at LaPlage in Maho Bay. Sounds like we missed ALOT!!!! But what we like about the island in the six years we've been coming here is: long beach days at Orient Beach, and Club O in particular; Pinel; day trips to Anguilla; Maho village; Sunset Bar & Grill (even now with its touristy renovations !!!); shopping in Marigot; the Green Monkey bar; Cupecoy Beach(or what's left of it, anyway !!!); Happy Bay; and most of all, the people on the island, who have all been so friendly. And the staff at LaPlage's front desk have always been very efficient and professional. I can only imagine what it's like to hear the same questions over and over from people who walk up to that desk, including myself, over the years. The LaPlage staff take it all in stride and do a superb job.
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 07:23 PM

Certainly a different setting from Turtle Pier in its day, but equally nice IMO, is Tortuga at the Royal Islander and I'm almost positive I've had baguette style French toast there with Mimosas to wash it down. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Bobben

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 08:07 PM

Loved the Café Julianna at the old airport- especially the seafood lasagna and the coupe Denmark desert
Posted By: gpaulh

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/05/2017 11:32 PM

Turtle steak at Bistro Nu
Posted By: Rbailey

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 12:02 AM

Turtle steak at Cas'Annie - before turtles were listed as endangered. Lots of stuff at Bistro Nu.
Posted By: biglar

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 02:32 AM

Please don't stop! I love the memories. Carol and I feel like newcomers after reading most of these posts. We only came for the first time in 2000. Would have loved to have found SXM when I could walk, hear, and see better. Not going to happen, so please keep adding more to this story.
Posted By: jrr1148

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 11:01 AM

"If it's yellow, let is mellow; if it's brown flush it down". <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" /> Siesta time when the shops in P'burg closed for two hours. Shops closed on Sunday except if a cruise ship was in port. Pinel before the cruise ships discovered it. Maho Beach before the cruise ships discovered it. The hustle and bustle of nightlife at Marina Royale in Marigot - the Piano Bar. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/dine.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/circle.gif" alt="" /> Fewer cars and no motor scooters. The old Pelican Resort and Casino (Simpson Bay Resort) with construction of the "B" buildings beginning at 0700am right behind us. More airline choices (especially from NY) American, United, Delta, Eastern, PanAm, charters - fares around $300 round trip. Most of this from the 1980's.
Posted By: jrr1148

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 11:09 AM

The camaraderie of American visitors and Dutch and French visitors and residents huddling around shortwave radios listening to reports from the First Gulf War. The solar eclipse (97% totality over Sint Maarten - the sea turned a silvery color.
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 11:10 AM

Wild Boar Sausage at Le Perokeet (sp)
Frigate in Mullet Bay Resort
Laguna
And yes you are right, the airfares were reasonable.
Posted By: SXMBND

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 12:34 PM

Nice tall drink in the shade at Scavenger's at the end of a hot day at the beach. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/drinking.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: irina

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 05:44 PM

SBB when it was a small round bar. Neil there.
Nothing on Billy Folly/Welfare corner. Maria's Deli. Walk to Kim Sha from Welfare Rd. across lot.
Le Petit Auberge in Marigot! The gourmet grocery shop in Marigot.
Nothing in Cupecoy but CCBC and Tradewinds. No Cliffs, no Rainbow.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 06:30 PM

H*ll, even Buccaneer when Neil was there! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> Neil was a character! ...I assume he still is, wherever he is!!
Posted By: jrr1148

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 09:57 PM

Vince's Konga Kafe on road to French Cul de Sac (road to Pinel)initially under the trees and then across the road in his living room (bar on his porch). <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/dine.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Bill_S

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 10:04 PM

Our first visit back in 1997? When we took our first cruise and the last port before returning to San Juan was Phillipsburg. We signed up for the America's Cup 12 Metre Regatta and had a blast crewing Stars and Stripes in a race against Canada 2...

We had lunch on the wharf near the Regatta's office and walked down to Front Street...and the jewelry stores... When Linda asked me whether she should get a small saphire ring or a small ruby ring, I just said "Why not get both, Sweetheart?"

At that point she looked at me like she had on our wedding day two decades before, and suggested we go check out what this "Club Orient beach" was all about (and which she had said "no way in hell" to the previous evening onboard the ship)!

By the time we were on the tender headed back to the ship that afternoon
we were planning the first of our now many week(s) long stays at Club Orient.

Never did take another cruise...
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/06/2017 10:47 PM

Oh, for sure!! I remember when his daughter was on the front cover of the AA magazine. Anyone know, is Julie still the chef at Loterie Farm?
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 01:40 AM

Not sure if it was already mentioned but we loved our dinners around the pool at Paradise Cafe along with the ornate wicker chairs my girls thought of as thrones, and those beautiful parrots on the porch outside the restaurant who seemed to spend as much time on top of their cages as they spent in them. Memories, memories..... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: gpaulh

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 11:38 AM

Hanging with my sons at Don Carlos
Posted By: SXMbeacher

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 11:59 AM

We are still building our memories since 2012. Chairs, umbrella's with free drink at Pedro's off the cruise ship. Wandered down to Perch to try their drinks. They were very good. After that our first swim out to The Club O float. Been twice since on a stay vacation. 8 months 3 weeks till the next. Seems to me the road we took into orient beach by taxi, was a lot more dirt, even in 2012. I think they dropped us off somewhere on the north end of the beach.
Posted By: SUEL

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 01:08 PM

Best Burgers!
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 01:19 PM

I wasn't that fond of hauling my carry on bags up that staircase to get there, but the view and the food at Cafe Juliana were worth it!!
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 01:44 PM

Every year when we stopped in to see Neil either at SBB or BBB he would yell at me for still having a watch on. Watch was a must when I was still working and a hard habit to break even on vacation. Now, retired, I never have one on.
Posted By: RICKnGRACE_LI_NY

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 01:48 PM

I remember Narcissa from Don Carlos. She was a sweet lady. We actually ran into her brother randomly on our only Aruba vacation in 1999. Small world. Wonder what became of her.
Posted By: yanque6

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/07/2017 01:51 PM

Our first vacation trip to the Caribbean was in 1994 to the old Dawn Beach hotel. We loved it , planned to return. Then Hurricane Luis came along and changed Dawn beach forever.
Posted By: sxmmartini

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/09/2017 11:36 AM

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pat said:
Aanother great find for us was LePavillion Restaurant in Simpson Bay back in the early 80's. Simpson Bay then was nothing like it is today and I think this was the only restaurant along the beach with the exception of Mary's Boon Guesthouse. There used to be some sort of construction plant, perhaps a cement plant? - and you turned in by it on the right just before the old bridge, and eventually as you snaked around back there you would come across the restaurant. The food was wonderful as was the service and it was definitely a favorite. We think it was destroyed in a hurricane but I'm not sure if that. So much of what we first knew on the island has been lost and so much new has taken its place.

The Food Center
Portofinos on Front St.
Pinocchio's also on Front St.
The original restaurant at Mary's Boon
The Frigate along with all the other Mullet Restaurants
Marks in Cul de Sac
Bobbys Marina in P'berg and the Seafood Galley Restaurant there
All of Dawn Beach Resort and Mullet Bay Resort
Midass Muffler at the foot of the hill heading to P'berg
Risdons take out stand and Risdons Ice Cream Shop by the pier in P'berg
The Parrott place
Some of the earlier radio personalities
The Philipsberg Rib Place - in P'berg and in Simpson Bay
Bertines up in the French Hills of LaSavanne
And the phone company in P'berg where you went to place a call home....
Lynettes in Simpson Bay

Along with so much more whose names and specifics I can't remember......

Those were the good old days on SXM that a few of us here were fortunate enough to have been a part of. And I can only imagine what my kids and Grands will recall as their "good old days" memories some day down the road...... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />


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Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/09/2017 12:26 PM

Wendy--thanks for the pics! Is the second one Pedro's and the last one Papagayo?
Posted By: DICKG

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/09/2017 12:36 PM

Spent many a night at David's playing trivial per suit and drinking austrialian beer ,and all the rerturants in the harbor great times
Posted By: pat

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/09/2017 12:59 PM

Wendy,

Thanks for sharing the photos - and in particular the ones of the Marigot Marketplace pre-Speed. We spent many an hour there 'back in the day'....
Posted By: sxmmartini

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/09/2017 01:00 PM

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Carol_Hill said:
Wendy--thanks for the pics! Is the second one Pedro's and the last one Papagayo?


1st pic Food Center, 2nd pic Scavengers. Dawn Beach, 3rd pic Marigot Market and 4th pic Papagayo, Club Orient 1982
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Enough Doom and Gloom - Remember the Good Old Days - 07/10/2017 12:52 PM

Thanks!
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