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Travel Issues C Virus

Posted By: DaveF

Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 01:03 AM

I travel a lot to Asia for work but not much lately, though one trip to Japan at end of January. No travel to China, in fact a big Exhibition we go to in Shanghai in April and the Formula 1 races are canceled. I keep up with the news very closely over that side of the planet. A good site for checking details is:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

My question is: Any discussions / issues / concerns on any of this in the Islands?

Has travel dropped off any?

I look at the news from the "Islands" and I have not seen any of this going on, hope it stays that way.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 01:32 AM

As of now, the only big news has been cruise ships denied coming into port, mostly with false suspicions. The BVI refused to allow a cruise ship to dock a day or so ago, which subsequently docked in St Maarten.

Daily Herald story
Posted By: RatmansWife

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 09:04 AM

It’s on the radio here all day and in the news web sites. The Costa ship was not allowed because some passengers had flown directly from Italy to start the cruise. In addition, there is a person (local, I think) quarantined at the hospital while lab samples are sent to Trinidad. Look at Facebook BVI (I don’t know how to cut and paste on an iPhone).
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 10:14 AM

https://viconsortium.com/vi-health/...determine-whether-illness-is-coronavirus
Posted By: Manpot

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 01:14 PM

Wont a lime prevent Corona virus?
Posted By: UncleLuff

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 02:41 PM

Beach, sun, sand, water and an adequate dose of pain killers is a good home remedy for any ailment!
Posted By: ndfaninnc

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Manpot
Wont a lime prevent Corona virus?


See. This right here. Corona is my go to beer. Have I not built up immunity to the virus?
Posted By: Deepcut

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 04:20 PM

The good news is that warm weather, sunshine, and humidity helps to reduce the spread of virus such as C-Virus.
Posted By: sunman60

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/28/2020 04:31 PM

we're coming out soon I'm looking forward to lots of cold Corona, PainKillers & Anegada lobster, imo the spread of this virus is now unstoppable so they might as well let it run riot, do what it has to do & move on.
Posted By: YachtReprise

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/29/2020 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by Manpot
Wont a lime prevent Corona virus?

Hehe. Funny. And very esoteric. Don't know that most will get it.
Posted By: Manpot

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/29/2020 12:14 PM

A little side bar to the silly habit of lime and Corona. When we first went to Baja, Mexico to surf in the 70's we first came across Corona and baby Coronitas beer..much better tasting than that "stuff" they now make especially for the US market. The bottling was notoriously bad and the caps left rust around the lip of the bottle...servers would give you a lime to wipe off the rust..then someone decided to jam the rusty lime into the beer..go figure! Anyway..back to the more serious subject. I hear there is one only possible case her in the BVI's and samples are in Trinidad being tested as we speak. Hope for the best.
Posted By: Brent

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 02/29/2020 05:40 PM

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Posted By: Brian21097

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 01:48 PM

Any rumors on travel restrictions or bans for BVIs? I have a charter at end of April and still plan to go if allowed.

No need to debate whether it's stupid or being blown out of proportion, just looking for facts.
Posted By: GeorgeC1

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 02:15 PM

No restrictions at the moment. The BVI is cash starved. I doubt you will see any customs issues.
Posted By: jpfitzy7

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 02:15 PM

My charter starts May 2nd and we are still on at this point.
Posted By: Orange_Burst

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 02:18 PM

April 17th of us. Praying they don't put any travel restrictions, we still plan on going.
Posted By: GeorgeC1

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 02:39 PM

White out any Wuhan China Visa stamps and all will be fine!
G
Posted By: DaveZ

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 02:41 PM

Going down tomorrow, 2 limes in a corona keeps the bug away
Posted By: MrEZgoin

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 03:21 PM

April 10th, still planning to go.
Posted By: TallOne

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 04:04 PM

3/28/20 - Here we come !!
Posted By: bagsarepacked

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 04:34 PM

April 18-27 land based. Still going as of now. Flights and where I am staying are refundable. I will decided that week based on how things stand at that time. Its a very fluid situation. If I do not go I will reschedule. For me its not so much a worry about getting sick, its more about being a possible carrier and spreading something I do not know I have and also getting stuck or quarantined. I would reschedule for early summer...late May or June.
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 04:38 PM

There may be some bargains coming up in the April/May timeframe.
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 04:55 PM

We are May 11 - May 18...I assume no more risk down there then in Washington DC

We wipe the boat clean with chlorox wipes anyways...learned that the hard way one from my brother in law who had a crew that got sick with diarrhea for the week...
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 05:04 PM

I would say that the islands definitely are safer than the DC area, it's just getting there! Air travel is such a PITA in general these days, even without corona fears..
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 05:23 PM

Agree...We have a JetBlue direct flight from DCA to SJU and the Island Birds Charter SJU to EIS which takes the bite out of the travel to some degree...
Posted By: Winterstale

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 06:18 PM

Still planning on 5/24-6/5
Posted By: tpcook

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 06:59 PM

I just had a group of 12 cancel. Some were doctors who could not leave their post. others decided to cancel. I am staying in the BVI till this ends. I understand that some billionaires are coming to the BVI to wait it out.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 07:26 PM

Thorsten--I think this thing is going to be with us for a while, so settle down for a long stay..
Posted By: UncleLuff

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by jpfitzy7
My charter starts May 2nd and we are still on at this point.


Are charter starts May 2nd as well! well 3rd i guess once we get off of the docks. DYC, we will be on a bali 4.3. Maybe we will see you around.

Agree, not worried about the BVIs more worried about the airports. Have to transfer through Dulles and then to San Juan to Tortolla. Hand wash, disinfect and keep hands out of eyes, ears mouth and nose!!!!
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 08:31 PM

Weekend flights to STT in May/June are still pretty full and not discounted
Posted By: Deepcut

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 09:54 PM

Planes have never been cleaner with every passenger wiping down their seat and all of those around them.
Posted By: DaveF

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/11/2020 10:28 PM

Some good news along with all the other craziness...Lobster Prices are dropping...at least in the USA

https://nypost.com/2020/03/09/coronavirus-outbreak-is-making-lobster-really-affordable/

Dave
Posted By: Breeze

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 12:14 AM

Dave, there is lobster, and then there is a different lobster. Spiny lobster is a completely different critter from Atlantic lobster. Here in Maine, the price of lobster sure hasn't dropped.
Posted By: OneEyedJack

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 02:56 AM

Nah! Lime only helps keep Corona from smelling like skunk. Stay with ":greenies" to be safe.
Posted By: Timeless38

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 10:56 AM

Here now. They are looking carefully at passports at customs for previous travel to Asia.
Posted By: sunman60

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 01:54 PM

doesn't look like we'll be seeing many Cruise Liners ; we're coming in a week, everything crossed that travel restrictions don't prevent us.
Posted By: sleepychef

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 02:37 PM

Press release from today.

109R/20 Contact: Adrianna J. Soverall
Ag. Public Health Communications Specialist
Ministry of Health and Social Development
Telephone: 468-4138
Email: asoverall@gov.vg

GOVERNMENT OF THE VIRGIN ISLANDS ISSUES QUARANTINE ADVISORY

Thursday, March 12 – The Government of the Virgin Islands has implemented increased border control and quarantine measures for travellers entering the Territory based on assessment of risks, vulnerabilities and capacities in response to the coronavirus disease COVID-19.

This was done preceding the World Health Organization (WHO) declaring the COVID-19 a pandemic today, March 11.

The Ministry of Health and Social Development is hereby advising the public that any national or non-national with a travel history within the last 14 days from an affected area*, whether in transit or originating, or has been in close contact with a suspected or confirmed case of COVID-19 within the last 14 days, may be subject to quarantine on arrival in the British Virgin Islands for up to fourteen (14) days even if they do not exhibit symptoms of COVID-19.

All travellers entering the BVI (including BVI citizens, permanent residents and their immediate family) will be subject to screening and passenger tracing at ports of entry; and may be subjected to clinical examination and quarantined for up to fourteen (14) days, as deemed necessary, in accordance with the Quarantine Act, 2014.

During quarantine, persons will be monitored for the development of signs and symptoms consistent with COVID-19 by a designated health officer. Travel outside of quarantined premises and direct contact with anyone other than medical personnel will be prohibited or restricted.

These measures are being taken to avert the introduction and active transmission of this disease in the British Virgin Islands, thereby safeguarding the health and wellbeing of all residents and visitors and will remain in effect until further notice.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 02:43 PM

OK, what is the definition of an "affected area"???
Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
OK, what is the definition of an "affected area"???


At the bottom of the press release:

* According to the WHO, “affected areas” are considered those countries, provinces, territories or cities experiencing ongoing transmission of COVID-19, in
contrast to areas reporting only imported cases.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 03:47 PM

To me, affected areas then would include the US...
Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
To me, affected areas then would include the US...

Certainly some cities in the US. I would think Seattle and NY for sure.
Posted By: FRANKIE2

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 04:17 PM

Clarification of "affected area" would be helpful!!!
Posted By: Riverfrontbrewer

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 04:22 PM

I just sent an email to the address on the press release to see if they could clarify * affected area. We'll see if they respond.
Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 04:37 PM

They appear to be using the WHO definition. Not sure how that will be applied.
Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 04:45 PM

Here is the WHO link that supplied the definition but I don't see a definitive list.
Posted By: sleepychef

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 05:39 PM

just spoke to them, they will be issuing a list of the countries later today to clarify.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 05:49 PM

OK, thanks.
Posted By: UncleLuff

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 05:50 PM

Reply I agree; they need to specify from which countries travelers will have to "self Quarantine" Here is the definition from the above link:

“Affected areas” are considered those countries, provinces, territories or cities experiencing ongoing transmission of COVID-19, in contrast to areas reporting only imported cases.

Here is the daily situation report link that lists the countries, provinces etc and whether transmission is local or imported.... Table 2

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...sitrep-51-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=1ba62e57_8


So if the states blow up in case numbers and I am travelling through Washington from Ottawa what do I do?

jeez!
Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by UncleLuff
Reply I agree; they need to specify from which countries travelers will have to "self Quarantine" Here is the definition from the above link:

“Affected areas” are considered those countries, provinces, territories or cities experiencing ongoing transmission of COVID-19, in contrast to areas reporting only imported cases.

Here is the daily situation report link that lists the countries, provinces etc and whether transmission is local or imported.... Table 2

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...sitrep-51-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=1ba62e57_8


So if the states blow up in case numbers and I am travelling through Washington from Ottawa what do I do?

jeez!

Table 2 shows the United States as having "Local Transmission" cases which should imply any traveling thru or from the United States is subject to 14 quarantine. I would think they would need to get more specific but I don't know how they will handle it.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 07:13 PM

Right, if the criteria is 'local transmission', that definitely includes the US.
Posted By: jpfitzy7

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 07:59 PM

Just saw these items posted on the government website:

https://bvi.gov.vg/sites/default/fi...ory_update_-_covid-19-_march_11_2020.pdf

https://bvi.gov.vg/sites/default/fi...s_of_special_interest_list-_covid-19.pdf
Posted By: Scandia

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 08:11 PM

Awesome! Thank you. We are leaving for a 9 day charter form Minnesota on Tuesday and this is very helpful.
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 08:14 PM

The CV is going to rock the islands like Irma without the physical destruction. Within the next week the problem won’t be getting into the BVI but getting back into the US without a 14 day quarantine. We are in for an unprecedented rough patch.
Posted By: west8th

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 08:27 PM

Has anyone talked to any charter companies on cancelling/postponing because of CV? We have a charter booked with Navigare for 3/19-26. I haven't contacted them yet but would hope they would consider CV and objective reason for cancellation.

As of now we have not cancelled anything, but will have to make a decision soon.


5) CANCELLATION
If the Charterer who has made a reservation, makes a cancellation more than 120 days prior to embarkation – cancellation fee of 500 EUR applies. If cancellation occurs 119 to 60 days before embarkation, NY has the right for the retention of 50% of the charter fee. If cancellation occurs 59 days or less before embarkation, NY has the right for the retention of 100% of the charter fee. If the cancellation is due to objective reasons (death in family, heavy injury etc.), paid price will not be paid back but NY will give the Vessel at the Charterer's disposal in another free period of time or within the next sailing season, but in this case NY has the right to charge Charterer with administration and other objective costs. In any other case, NY is not obliged to return the Charterer amount paid in accordance to this Contract.
Posted By: ligot

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 08:27 PM

Just got here(Tortola) yesterday. Thought the REQUIRED hand sanitizer before walking into customs building was a nice touch. smile

Not to make fun of those affect but I wouldn't mind if the US canceled my flights back for a couple weeks.

No word of any cases on the island but I expect it's coming, seems like the worst places to be though are airports. Traveling with sanitizer and washing a lot and hopeing for the best.
Posted By: west8th

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 08:36 PM

I agree on not the worst place to be stuck, and think a boat by ourselves is a great way to not catch the virus.

I'd be more concerned about any panics or disruption to food, supplies, etc. on the island.

I guess in a worst case scenario, St Thomas (or even Puerto Rico) are easily reachable by boat...


Originally Posted by ligot
Just got here(Tortola) yesterday. Thought the REQUIRED hand sanitizer before walking into customs building was a nice touch. smile

Not to make fun of those affect but I wouldn't mind if the US canceled my flights back for a couple weeks.

No word of any cases on the island but I expect it's coming, seems like the worst places to be though are airports. Traveling with sanitizer and washing a lot and hopeing for the best.

Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by west8th
Has anyone talked to any charter companies on cancelling/postponing because of CV? We have a charter booked with Navigare for 3/19-26. I haven't contacted them yet but would hope they would consider CV and objective reason for cancellation.

As of now we have not cancelled anything, but will have to make a decision soon.


I doubt your trip insurance company would deny a claim.
Posted By: jpfitzy7

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 09:09 PM

I'm booked with CYOA on May 2nd. They are letting us postpone and we will receive a voucher for the charter fee that's good for a year to rebook. Hoping it doesn't come to that.
Posted By: FRANKIE2

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 09:14 PM

It would be important to know FOR SURE prior to boarding a plane for BVI.
Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by FRANKIE2
It would be important to know FOR SURE prior to boarding a plane for BVI.

The list was published earlier today. Here it is.
Posted By: moonhat

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 10:08 PM

We are heading down on April 10th from the Seattle area also laugh (fingers crossed!)
Posted By: FRANKIE2

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/12/2020 10:14 PM

Actually, I was aware of the current list. My concern is that if a person has a reservation in a week or a month or three months, is the list going to be updated daily and published so that appropriate cancellations can be made?
Posted By: TimS

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 01:00 PM

We just cancelled our March 15 charter with Horizon. I asked about refunds, postponements etc. And was told none were available. If other companies are offering some sort of credit it would certainly make me take a close look at them for future charters. Over the past 15 years we have only chartered with Horizon in the Caribbean.

Tim
Posted By: west8th

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 01:10 PM

Trip is officially cancelled with one of our crew coming from BC--which just put in new travel restrictions to the United States.

We booked through GlobeSailor so I reached out to them first and asked they contact the charter company. They said most likely we would get a voucher to be used at a later date, but did not confirm.
Posted By: Brent

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 01:57 PM

Ahoy Captains,

Full Credit for all Charters affected by Covid-1 on all Payments with The Captains Compass.
Simple and Fair.

I would also recommend -
https://www.insuremytrip.com/travel-insurance-plans-coverages/coronavirus-travel-insurance/
https://www.insuremytrip.com/quote-compare/index.html?quoteId=I4wyMID5a-SR#vlist,tcomprehensive

After Cat 5 Irma I offered all my Captains a Delay and Discount with the option to take their Charter 1 Year later and their Deposit would be considered the Full Payment.
Simple and Fair.

Fair Winds,
Brent
Posted By: jpfitzy7

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 05:16 PM

https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/bvi-quarantine-advisory-procedures

New quarantine info from BVI government website
Posted By: LarryEdgar

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 05:25 PM

Not sure what MAY means in this release. “on arrival in the British Virgin Islands, MAY be subject to medical or public health investigations"

We'll be coming from Colorado mid April (via Florida and San Juan). Colorado is on the High Risk list...
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 06:56 PM

Talked to Moorings today and they said as long as I cancel greater than 15 days out and book before Sept 30 the credit will transfer...

I told them I usually head out 2nd week Oct as well and they said they would have to make an exception
Posted By: bagsarepacked

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 07:05 PM

From Illinois here and scheduled to travel April 18. IL is on the list. Just a wait and see game right now.
Posted By: Orange_Burst

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 07:26 PM

The link will not work for me. Is Ohio on the list?
Posted By: jpfitzy7

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 07:28 PM

Looks like they removed the link from their website. Weird.
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 08:03 PM

Here is the Moorings Update

https://www.moorings.com/travel-advisory

Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Orange_Burst
The link will not work for me. Is Ohio on the list?

Ohio is not on the list, but where are you flying thru?
Posted By: ohstate

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 09:21 PM

Virgin Gorda Airport is now closed due to the virus. Our flight home tomorrow has been moved to EIS. Just need to catch the 1030 am Speedy’s ferry to Trellis. Was looking forward to a bit more time on the beach tomorrow morning before our flight.
Posted By: LocalSailor

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 10:51 PM

This will affect any foreign vessels from the USVI

https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/bvi-ports-processing-vessels-arriving-foreign-ports
Posted By: macaroni

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/13/2020 10:56 PM

Can those leaving VG or arriving let us know how things are please. We are suppose to head down on the 7th...just got the email about our cape air flight to VG being changed because of the airport closure...just don’t know if we are being stupid even considering flying...will they let us in from New York? Thanks for any insights.
Posted By: ohstate

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 12:32 AM

We arrived last Friday on VG with no issues. Now they are screening people as they come in from what recent arrivals say. No flights in/out of VG for now as they are doing screening at EIS. Like I said above, we are taking the ferry to EIS in the morning. Lines on VG for gas and provisions were nuts tonight (at least at the rite way that we drove by). One gas station was out, causing the rush at the other. Maybe it was pay day and not the virus. Didn’t stop the large tent revival that was going on in town. The place we stay has had about 50% cancellations so far. A real kick after Irma, it you have to do what’s best.
Posted By: Annoddddd

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Brent
Ahoy Captains,

Full Credit for all Charters affected by Covid-1 on all Payments with The Captains Compass.
Simple and Fair.

I would also recommend -
https://www.insuremytrip.com/travel-insurance-plans-coverages/coronavirus-travel-insurance/
https://www.insuremytrip.com/quote-compare/index.html?quoteId=I4wyMID5a-SR#vlist,tcomprehensive

After Cat 5 Irma I offered all my Captains a Delay and Discount with the option to take their Charter 1 Year later and their Deposit would be considered the Full Payment.
Simple and Fair.

Fair Winds,
Brent



Brent, you always do the right thing! Top Notch Company!
Posted By: sleepychef

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 01:36 AM

California (Sacramento Country, Santa Clara, San Francisco)
 New York
 Washington State
 Florida
 New Hampshire
 Massachusetts
 Colorado
 Oregon
 Rhode Island
 Illinois
 Placer county
 Georgia
 North Carolina
 Texas
 Wisconsin
 LA County
 Missouri
Posted By: sleepychef

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 01:07 PM

The above list is only enhanced screening not instant quarantine.
Posted By: Brent

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 02:02 PM

Ahoy Captains,

Hopefully this information is Helpful -

Th BVI Gov has Wisely Halted the arrivals of Cruise Ships for 30 Days
https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/temporary-halt-cruise-ship-calls-bvi
The BVI Gov has Wisely Reduced the Points of Entry to the BVI
https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/bvi-ports-processing-vessels-arriving-foreign-ports
For those of you Escaping to the BVI, the BVI Gov now has 2 Levels regarding Health Standards for Arrivals , #1 is Countries of Special Interest , #2 is High Risk Countries.
https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/revised-bvi-quarantine-advisory
https://bvi.gov.vg/sites/default/fi...cial_concern_and_high_risk_countries.pdf
#1 Is Nope for Foreigners and Quarantine for Locals.
#2 Is Yes if You and your crew are all Healthy. Health Screening at the Port of Entry and either Welcome to the BVI, or, a 14 Day Quarantine.
Please consider arriving with a Hard Copy of a Covid-19 Negative Test within 48 Hours prior to your arrival to expedite the Screening.

I am Biased, but please consider that Lounging on a Yacht in the BVI is quickly becoming one of the Safest Places in the World for the next few months?

Fair Winds, Brent from The Captains Compass.
Posted By: macaroni

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 03:20 PM

So countries of special interest are no entry and

High risk countries are ok if you are healthy...extra screening?

How do we get a hard copy of a negative test when people who need to be tested can’t get one done?
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 03:31 PM

Its not lounging there that is an issue...it is getting there. Its not like I can go down to a CVS 48 hours before flying and get my crew of 8 and myself tested...and I have to cancel within 15 days of chartering to get credit...

And the list of countries/states for BVI entry is very fluid...even though Virginia is where I live I fly out of DC

And they could change their policy to mandatory 14 day self quarantine as New Zealand just did

And hope that JetBlue doesnt cancel my DCA SJU flight

And hope that BVI's overbearing C&I people dont unnecessarily quarantine 1 of more of my crew (or me as Captain) for 14 days...

I also imagine by May, BVI will have a positive case of Coronavirus as USVI now has 1.

Posted By: Zanshin

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 03:45 PM

Macaroni - COVID-19 tests are generally available outside of the USA, which is known to have some serious issues at present in getting tests done. But what sucks is that despite having a negative result I can't head back to the BVI and the boat at present, since I'm coming from Germany and the BVI has prohibited me from coming in, test or quarantine notwithstanding.
Posted By: Brian21097

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 04:58 PM

I'm in the same situation. My charter is April 24 and flying out of DC. It's not like we know the future, especially with this scenario to give advance notice.

I have every intention of going, but how we control what the US or BVI governments do? People are paying between 4-12k for charters and could lose it all.
Posted By: VirginGordaResident

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 05:26 PM

From what I have heard talking to guests is that the entire United States is now being considered a "High Risk" area by the BVI government. This means that when you travel to the BVI from the US you are subject to additional screening. So far, this screening simply consists of questioning and filling out a questionaire regarding recent travel experience. "Have you visited China?", "Have you visited Italy?", etc. The Government Press Release says that they can take any Resident or Non-Resident into a 2 Week Quarantine following this screening if they do decide so. But I have yet to hear of this happening to anyone.

The screening procedure (as of yet) has not involved taking a temperature or a medical screening by nurse/doctor.
Posted By: BaardJ

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 07:41 PM

Regarding the 14 day quarantine - If you arrive on a private vessel or charter boat from USVI to BVI and then somehow don't pass the questionnaire, I sure hope that you would be allowed to return to your vessel and immediately depart the BVI instead of being forcibly placed into a 14 day quarantine.
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 07:45 PM

i was wondering same thing about plane...although it would be interesting to see if plane or US would take you back...
Posted By: ohstate

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/14/2020 07:53 PM

FYI, Cape Air met us at the ferry dock in VG and gave us vouchers for the ride over to Trellis. No issues with customs and immigration at SJU.
Posted By: Timeless38

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 11:56 AM

They were taking temperatures of folks getting off of ferries Friday
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 12:45 PM

Be aware people, that the St. Maarten government is prohibiting ANY flights of inbound passengers from either the US or Europe, as of March 17, for at least two weeks. Tourists that are currently on island have no idea when they will be able to get home, unless some airlines send down empty planes to pick them up. Food for thought...
Posted By: sunman60

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
Be aware people, that the St. Maarten government is prohibiting ANY flights of inbound passengers from either the US or Europe, as of March 17, for at least two weeks. Tourists that are currently on island have no idea when they will be able to get home, unless some airlines send down empty planes to pick them up. Food for thought...


food indeed; we're due out on the 20th, planning to delay final decision till the 19th but that decision may well be out of our hands by then.
Posted By: wanderingfarr

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 01:46 PM

Got this yesterday from a friend in BVI- not sure what additional screening is?

https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/revised-bvi-quarantine-advisory
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 02:13 PM

Getting stuck down there wasnt even on my list...and as much as a dream as that would be someday today isn't that day
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by wanderingfarr
Got this yesterday from a friend in BVI- not sure what additional screening is?

https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/revised-bvi-quarantine-advisory


"additional screening" by the arbitrary and capricious C&I officials - not for me.
Posted By: jpfitzy7

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 02:45 PM

We are heading down May 2and. Fingers crossed things relax a bit by then.
Posted By: sisterblysse

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 02:53 PM

We are due to fly in on the 28th March. it is looking increasingly unlikely as either the UK will be on a list of high risk countries and I don't fancy being quarantined in a repurposed naval vessel (which is what the BVI premier is asking the UK govt for), or the UK will have gone into full lockdown by then.

Isn't there a Chinese curse that goes "May you live in interesting times..."? Oh, the irony. duh

Stay safe and socially isolate responsibly, fellow travellers.
Posted By: Manpot

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 04:01 PM

I am reading that the airports are getting overrun with frustrated passengers waiting hours for check in etc. Is this not time for Trump to order out the National Guard to help out at the airports to help alleve, soothe the problem?? Is this not what a competent President does..and should have done about a week ago?? besides..I thought the idea was not to get into crowded situations..have the you seen the pix of people jammed against each other? This is a national disgrace.
Posted By: VirginGordaResident

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by wanderingfarr
Got this yesterday from a friend in BVI- not sure what additional screening is?

https://bvi.gov.vg/media-centre/revised-bvi-quarantine-advisory


I got this email from guests who arrived yesterday: "We came to the BVIs yesterday our crew today. No real issues as we are all US citizens coming from the US with no international travel within the last 14 days."
Posted By: VirginGordaResident

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Manpot
I am reading that the airports are getting overrun with frustrated passengers waiting hours for check in etc. Is this not time for Trump to order out the National Guard to help out at the airports to help alleve, soothe the problem?? Is this not what a competent President does..and should have done about a week ago?? besides..I thought the idea was not to get into crowded situations..have the you seen the pix of people jammed against each other? This is a national disgrace.


I saw this too. Was this issue caused by the travel ban to Europe and American's returning to the States?
Posted By: VirginGordaResident

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 04:16 PM

Update from New York Times regarding Puerto Rico just now:


RIGHT NOW: Puerto Rico is closing all businesses except supermarkets, pharmacies, gas stations and banks and is instituting a curfew from 9 p.m. to 5 a.m.

I can only imagine this also means closing airports. No time frame for when this goes into effect.


Article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/...amp;module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Posted By: Fran

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Manpot
I am reading that the airports are getting overrun with frustrated passengers waiting hours for check in etc. Is this not time for Trump to order out the National Guard to help out at the airports to help alleve, soothe the problem?? Is this not what a competent President does..and should have done about a week ago?? besides..I thought the idea was not to get into crowded situations..have the you seen the pix of people jammed against each other? This is a national disgrace.

Just wondering Mal, how would that alleviate the problem? Can the NG check people in, find them new flights, take over TSA (since they are not trained for that), make people leave the airport?
Posted By: Philthy

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 04:57 PM

Was wondering how long it would take for someone to make it Political.
Posted By: sail445

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Manpot
I am reading that the airports are getting overrun with frustrated passengers waiting hours for check in etc. Is this not time for Trump to order out the National Guard to help out at the airports to help alleve, soothe the problem?? Is this not what a competent President does..and should have done about a week ago?? besides..I thought the idea was not to get into crowded situations..have the you seen the pix of people jammed against each other? This is a national disgrace.


Trump tried to restrict travel from China in December but could not get the permission from Schumer and Pelosi. They called him a racist Etc.
Remember the Swine flu under Obama where 70 million were infected, 300,000 hospitalized and 17,000 deaths and non of the news programs said anything about it.
Trump is doing very well and in no way disgracing our nation.
Posted By: Philthy

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 05:04 PM

Well Said
Posted By: LarryEdgar

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 05:16 PM

I would suggest if folks want to get into the politics of this (and that it fine by me) start a new thread! Let's keep this one on topic. Pretty Please. We are scheduled to leave a month from today and trying to figure out just what to do. There is some great information flowing here and helping us assess our trip.

Cheers,
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 05:32 PM

NO, if you want to talk about politics, go to a different board!!! We will NOT be talking about politics here. PERIOD.
Posted By: LarryEdgar

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 05:36 PM

Well said, Carol! :-) I get a belly full of politics elsewhere!!
Posted By: ndfaninnc

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by LarryEdgar
I would suggest if folks want to get into the politics of this (and that it fine by me) start a new thread! Let's keep this one on topic. Pretty Please. We are scheduled to leave a month from today and trying to figure out just what to do. There is some great information flowing here and helping us assess our trip.

Cheers,

Absolutely agree. I am leaning on this board to help me decide if I’m going to make it down there in May. You all have been very informative in a situation that seems to change by the hour. Please keep that part going.
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 06:24 PM

+2 ....hopefully I get to see NDFANINNC at Cow Wreck and buy him and his bride drinks...but he wants to know we dont have 7 college castaways that need to bunk up with them as they cant get home...:)
Posted By: Deepcut

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 06:25 PM

Even though BVI mimics US "screening and quarantine" policy, the BVI does not have ability to house and quarantine even a few dozen people. So the ferry being unloaded is not going to be directed to a Quarantine Building. If overtly sick(fever), you may be denied admission (and sent back on next ferry?).
Quarantine could be potentially, go directly to your villa/charter boat and do not go to shops/bars/restaurants, etc

Or am I wrong about the BVI Quarantine capabilities?
Posted By: VirginGordaResident

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Deepcut
Even though BVI mimics US "screening and quarantine" policy, the BVI does not have ability to house and quarantine even a few dozen people. So the ferry being unloaded is not going to be directed to a Quarantine Building. If overtly sick(fever), you may be denied admission (and sent back on next ferry?).
Quarantine could be potentially, go directly to your villa/charter boat and do not go to shops/bars/restaurants, etc

Or am I wrong about the BVI Quarantine capabilities?


I do not think you are wrong at all. I do have yet to hear of anyone arriving to the BVI actually being quarantined. I have, however, heard 2 rumors of possible quarantine locations:

1.) The old Peebles hospital
2.) The Premier allegedly asked the UK to have access to a Navy ship which they could re-purpose as a quarantine location

Again, just rumors and I have no facts or articles to back these up.
Posted By: ndfaninnc

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 06:37 PM

Haha! Would be glad to. Look forward to seeing you all at Cow Wreck in May.
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by VirginGordaResident
Originally Posted by Deepcut
Even though BVI mimics US "screening and quarantine" policy, the BVI does not have ability to house and quarantine even a few dozen people. So the ferry being unloaded is not going to be directed to a Quarantine Building. If overtly sick(fever), you may be denied admission (and sent back on next ferry?).
Quarantine could be potentially, go directly to your villa/charter boat and do not go to shops/bars/restaurants, etc

Or am I wrong about the BVI Quarantine capabilities?


I do not think you are wrong at all. I do have yet to hear of anyone arriving to the BVI actually being quarantined. I have, however, heard 2 rumors of possible quarantine locations:

1.) The old Peebles hospital
2.) The Premier allegedly asked the UK to have access to a Navy ship which they could re-purpose as a quarantine location

Again, just rumors and I have no facts or articles to back these up.


Rumors and no facts is how the BVI government functions. Nepotism and laziness rule in all government departments. Someone connected will find a way to monetize this disaster to the detriments of the good citizens. And be clear this Corona is going to crush the BVI economy like Irma except for the lack on physical damage.
Posted By: calsail

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 07:59 PM

in my humble opinion, after spending 2 months yearly since 1981 in the BVI and living in California, there is no way I'd travel to the BVI until this situation resolves. A close friend just competed in the Caribbean 600 and upon his return in his sailboat, to Miami was held off for two days while he was cleared. Can you imagine what the customs in the BVI might do when during normal times it might take that long to clear into BVI.. LOL
Posted By: bailau

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/15/2020 10:01 PM

Here is an interesting development...

https://medium.com/@BolongoBay/an-announcement-from-bolongo-bay-beach-resort-regarding-covid-19-51004f7fc330

Note their advice to leave "while you have a choice"
Posted By: bagsarepacked

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 12:55 AM

Wow...that was very well written and is a tough call to make. In Illinois, as in other states, they have shut down bars and restaurants until the end of the month. Miami just closed their beaches until April 12th. While nobody likes this, that old saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure comes to mind. Be well everyone.
Posted By: NotquiteCapnRon

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 02:56 AM

Having a horrible mental image of the charter boat briefing that includes a Q flag.
Posted By: sunman60

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 10:35 AM

Very sadly we've taken the decision to cancel our trip frown , flight and quarantine issues are changing daily and once there there's no guarantee that a plane will be around to bring us back. just fyi we we're British and were coming this Friday 20th for 2 weeks bareboat.
love to all the folk there, stay safe & we'll see you soon x
Posted By: Manpot

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 01:08 PM

We are supposed to fly March 26..St Thomas, Philadelphia San Francisco on AA. If anyone hears any pertinent news we'd be very grateul..impossible to get anything out of AA but, at the moment, it looks like a go. What we dont want is to leave CRC and get stuck on the way back! We can stay here and damn the tax filings! Any news from fellow TTOLers would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 01:24 PM

Mal--If it were ME, I'd get my butt to STT and then back in the US, ASAP. Based on what is happening in St. Maarten, where they are probably closing all bars and restaurants, both sides of the island, as of today, and AA is suspending ALL flights in and out of SXM through May 6, who knows what will happen there..
Posted By: VirginGordaResident

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by VirginGordaResident
Update from New York Times regarding Puerto Rico just now:


RIGHT NOW: Puerto Rico is closing all businesses except supermarkets, pharmacies, gas stations and banks and is instituting a curfew from 9 p.m. to 5 a.m.

I can only imagine this also means closing airports. No time frame for when this goes into effect.


Article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/...amp;module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage


For anyone still planning on travelling, Puerto Rico airports are still open as of last night. See attached photo. Additionally, at this time no BVI bars, restaurants or hotels have closed.

Rumors have it BVI schools may be closing, however. And I would not be surprised at all to see some BVI resorts/restaurants closing in the next couple weeks.

Attached picture puertorico.jpg
Posted By: IWIWSE

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 02:51 PM

Mal,
You should check with someone more knowledgeable
about taxes (that would be anybody), but I think the government
is waiving penalties for late filing.

Mike
Trying to be the man my dog thinks I am
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 02:58 PM

Eric prepares taxes and as of NOW, there is no waiver of penalties for late filing of taxes. But that should be the least of anyone's worries.
Posted By: NoelHall

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 03:17 PM

I was advised by a friend who lives on Roatan that effective this afternoon the island is on 'lockdown' and no one will be allowed entry on the island for the next two weeks (initially). He doesn't know of any current cases of COVID-19 on the island, this apparently is to stop the tourist traffic until the situation settles down. I suspect the decisions are fluid (good word) at this time, but thinking it might be an indicator for other tourist destinations?
Posted By: UncleLuff

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by NoelHall
I was advised by a friend who lives on Roatan that effective this afternoon the island is on 'lockdown' and no one will be allowed entry on the island for the next two weeks (initially). He doesn't know of any current cases of COVID-19 on the island, this apparently is to stop the tourist traffic until the situation settles down. I suspect the decisions are fluid (good word) at this time, but thinking it might be an indicator for other tourist destinations?


Family and I were scheduled to fly to Roatan today for a week. Thankfully decided to heed the warnings from our Federal government and Cancel our trip. Sure glade we did.

Now I have to decided what to do about our May 2nd trip with DYC. Our last payment for the boat is due this week. I am concerned that an event like this could be catastrophic for the charter industry. Not sure is I deposit the remaining balance if there will be ability to get back if things are shut down for 8 - 12 weeks.

As of this point I completely expect our trip May 2nd to be postponed..... This event is the definition of force Majeure. Still may end up losing the deposit...

Getting real everyone stay safe and healthy.



Posted By: TimS

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 04:53 PM

By way of update, Horizon has come through with a very generous postponement arrangement. I am very grateful to them as these are indeed difficult times all around.

Tim
Posted By: NoelHall

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 05:47 PM

Inter Island Boat posted to Facebook this morning that arriving folks by sea can ONLY clear-in to the British Virgin Islands at West End or Road Town. No Jost Van Dyke, Virgin Gorda, or Anegada.
Posted By: Brian21097

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 06:49 PM

I ended up delaying my April 24 charter with Sunsail. I was able to reschedule it to the end of June without penalty. Hopefully this situation is resolved by then.

I really didn't want to reschedule, but I wasn't about to risk being put in quarantine and losing all my money.
Posted By: Orange_Burst

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 06:52 PM

I see today Trump has asked the IRS to move tax filing deadline to July 15th and to waive any interest and fees for late payment.
Posted By: Manpot

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 07:20 PM

Thank you..about fri%%ing time.
Posted By: Riverfrontbrewer

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/16/2020 10:29 PM

No official word from the Treasury Dept yet, we were hoping for that today. If and when they do everyone seems to be expecting June or July 15. But Mal, this is specific to you/other CA filers;

https://www.ftb.ca.gov/about-ftb/ne...s-affected-by-the-covid-19-pandemic.html
Posted By: Riverfrontbrewer

Re: Travel Issues C Virus - 03/17/2020 04:23 PM

Mnuchin's press conf this morning would have been a great time to announce any extended filing dates but that didn't happen. They did announce individuals can defer payments penalty & interest free for 90 days if owing $1,000,000 or less, but not many additional details on that either.
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