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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: AquaMusic] #309783
12/03/2023 09:21 AM
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Looks like the party is underway this morning.

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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: Matt W] #309786
12/03/2023 09:37 AM
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Matt--laugh Anyone have any actual sightings?


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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: Matt W] #309788
12/03/2023 10:08 AM
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That is exactly what I imagined!😂

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: Matt W] #309791
12/03/2023 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt W
Looks like the party is underway this morning.


LOL!
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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: RatmansWife] #309794
12/03/2023 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RatmansWife

The government is looking for as many places to ruin as possible, although they wouldn't phrase it like that. Look at Long Bay east, look at Spring Bay.


Spring Bay has been targeted for excursions by cruise lines? Are they providing amenities like at Long Bay, East?
Next it will be Savannah Bay…

The Carib is shrinking faster and faster as the cruise industry caters to today’s “travelers”…


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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309798
12/03/2023 01:18 PM
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Spring Bay? Did something new happen there? I have only ever seen the crowds descend on The Baths. Even when they are crawling like ants over there we are usually left alone at SB.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309802
12/03/2023 02:02 PM
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I have seen Spring Bay on some private excursion lists, but nothing like The Baths or Long Bay East. Concerns have been expressed about the over-use of The Baths, hence the one-way path. The issue is with more and larger cruise ships, there is a constant hunt for new and different shore options.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309804
12/03/2023 02:32 PM
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The ridiculous thing is the $$$$$ spent on bringing millions of tons of sand to Brandywine Bay for the cruise ship excursions.All I have ever seen there are goats and a few kids with radio controlled boats.Bring them to Brandywine Bay and stop wrecking the islands..PLEASE. Natures Little Secrets???Seriously?????

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309844
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Well, looks like it’s official…

https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12

No reviews yet so probably a relatively new excursion. Also no mention of amenities..

A Trellis Bay/Guana option I didn’t know existed..
https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12

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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: crmoores] #309847
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Sigh. Pretty soon those cruise ship crowds will be everywhere. I do not like anything about cruise ships. I have seen the negative consequences in far too many places.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309853
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The irony of the NCL description is stunning, "Although the setting is practically identical to the more famous beach at The Baths, (there) won’t be nearly as many people. "
Pogo, "We have seen the enemy and it is us"
Good grief.

Mike

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309865
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So they are doing excursions onto Guana? I thought Guana was totally private? That's the whole selling point I thought-that they allow only like 35 guests at a time (or rent the whole island yourself)? I can't imagine exclusive guests to Guana wanting to share it with day trippers from cruise lines. Or am I misreading or getting this all wrong?

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309874
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The cruise ship industry is mean, ugly and ruthless. They generally find a way to get what they want.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309876
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All beaches are public so technically they can land guests wherever they like and occupy up to the high water mark. Surprised that Guana will tolerate it however. Seems you just can’t escape them nowadays no matter how hard you try. At least Anegada is spared this menace - for now.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309877
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The fact that Guana is tolerating it is what made me give pause. There's no way their guests would be happy about this. And there is also no way tour operators are keeping day trippers to the high water mark. Keeping cruisers in line is like herding cats.
This is all just so unfortunate and sad.
Follow the money.....

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