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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: warren460]
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I lock it ashore and also lock it to the boat at night if it's a mono and has no davits. It's not a pain so why worry about the pain it would be if somebody "borrows" it?
Kirk in Maryland
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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There's really no reason not to lock it. We lock it ashore and lock it to the boat at night.
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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Haven't locked the dinghy in 12 trips to the BVI. Never had one go missing.
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: Calvin]
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06/13/2017 10:27 AM
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In the early trips we never locked the dinghy but things change and you need to use common sense. BVIYC always provides a long cable and lock for the dinghy. We use our judgement as to locking ashore. If we are close by in daylight hours usually not, but if we go to dinner somewhere at night where we do not have eyes on the dock ( Cane Garden etc.) we will lock the dinghy. We always lock it at night to the boat. Just don't want the hassle of losing it.
Rita It is better to be happy than it is to be right
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: Maria_and_Steve]
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We always lock it to the boat at night and to the dock if we go ashore. I also put a cable and lock on the outboard to the boat. Back about 10 years ago we was about to pull out of a slip in Nanny Cay. As we waited for a boat to go by I noticed they didn't have a motor on their dinghy. When they passed I could see their outboard hanging about two feet under the water by their lock and cable. So, from then on I always locked my motor to the dinghy too. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />
Phil Nixa, Mo.
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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06/13/2017 05:56 PM
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End of the day, I think its really simple. Dinghy's have been stolen before. So is the 2 minutes it will take to lock it up more of a hassle then what you'll deal with if it is stolen? It's also probably worth checking to see what your liability is if it is stolen.
Matt
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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06/13/2017 07:06 PM
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When I was in Antigua years ago there were young teens with nice dingys they all used a plastic bag to wrap around the kill switch where the little plastic clip went. Humm?
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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06/13/2017 07:34 PM
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There are too many "why not?" responses to consider them all rhetorical.
1) It's inconvenient. 2) It's a psychological burden to have to consider theft at every turn.
Yes, of course it's even more inconvenient to have the dinghy stolen. However, the actual probability of the dinghy being stolen also figures into this calculation. Personally, a discussion of the actual prevalence of dinghy theft and it's consequences is of more value than a blanket "why not?" applied to every possible precaution.
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: MrEZgoin]
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06/13/2017 07:38 PM
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MrEZgoin said: Haven't locked the dinghy in 12 trips to the BVI. Never had one go missing. Every mutual fund prospectus ever written states: "Past Performance Is No Guarantee of Future Results." Now, try to think of an area of life (sports, education, career, family, government, etc) to which this law does not apply. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Just sayin'.
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: MrEZgoin]
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06/13/2017 07:47 PM
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MrEZgoin said:
1) It's inconvenient. 2) It's a psychological burden to have to consider theft at every turn.
Ssshhh! We assign lock and unlock duties to the grandkid who dons the coxswain crew shirt on a given trip. They think its fun and a high honor to wear the floating wristband and key! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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06/13/2017 07:54 PM
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aarpskier said:MrEZgoin said: Haven't locked the dinghy in 12 trips to the BVI. Never had one go missing. Every mutual fund prospectus ever written states: "Past Performance Is No Guarantee of Future Results." Now, try to think of an area of life (sports, education, career, family, government, etc) to which this law does not apply. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Just sayin'. Of course. I was just relating my experience. It provides a data point regarding prevalence, nothing more implied.
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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06/13/2017 08:21 PM
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captmoby said: When I was in Antigua years ago there were young teens with nice dingys they all used a plastic bag to wrap around the kill switch where the little plastic clip went. Humm? +1 LOL, Anyone can "own" one of those little plastic clips! Or use a quarter, a stick, a shell.....It is a shame to have to care these days, but "taking the little plastic clip" gives you about 2 seconds worth of security.
"Be a Traveler, not a tourist!"
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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06/13/2017 09:07 PM
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TIMRIM said: 14 years here, never locked a dinghy, always took the "red,orange coiled thingy", never had an issue. A moorings captain told me, just be sure to bring one home. Got a rubber band, hair scrunchy, or a piece of string? This is a $5000 chance I will not take. It's so easy for charter guests to be so nonchalant, when it's not your property. When we had our boat, we rigged a simple rig to the D rings on the the dinghy and hoisted it with a spare halyard, instant davits. A 15" steel cable from Home Depot and a decent water proof lock can save you $$$$
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: pbmonk]
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06/14/2017 05:30 AM
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You are probably less likely to have a problem at the dock at Cooper than most anywhere else.
Jim Sailmoby II
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: Call_me_Ishmael]
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06/14/2017 11:04 AM
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The link below should take you to the BVI report. https://safetyandsecuritynet.org/the-virgins-the-us-virgins-and-the-british-virgins/Out of all the thousands of charters there have been 11 reported thefts of dinghies/outboards since 2006 in the BVIs (4of these happened same date, time, location in West end in 2007) All of the dinghies that were stolen were not locked. The last reported dinghy theft was in 2014 in Cane Garden bay where two dinghies were stolen. Low probability of having your dinghy stolen. But easy control to implement. At the end of the day ask the charter company what they recommend.
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
[Re: maytrix]
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06/14/2017 05:20 PM
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maytrix said: End of the day, I think its really simple. Dinghy's have been stolen before. So is the 2 minutes it will take to lock it up more of a hassle then what you'll deal with if it is stolen? It's also probably worth checking to see what your liability is if it is stolen. BVIYC has provided a cable and lock. They encourage you to lock the dingy at night and at a dock. I lock it at a dock to keep the drunks from taking the wrong dingy. Wheels up next Wednesday. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/circle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/circle.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Dinghy locking poll /theft reports
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06/15/2017 11:22 AM
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Many moons ago we chartered from Conch. The dinghy was an old fiberglass POS. We asked well in advance to upgrade to a RIB but they would not do it even though when we got there they had several on the dock not in use.. We arranged to rent a RIB from another vendor. When we went to pick it up it was a great dingy but the engine had a skull and cross bones and Stone Cold Steve Austin crap painted all over it. The story was that the engine was brand new delivered in the crate late in the day to his dock. He left it overnight and when he got back the next day it was gone. He found it (through the grapevine) but the thief thought he could camo it by painting [censored] all over it. We had the coolest engine, no mistaking it on the dock and it ran like a champ!!
Rita It is better to be happy than it is to be right
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