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Sea Shells back to USA question

Posted By: moontide

Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 10:59 PM

After researching numerous customs sites, blogs and other relevant sites pertaining to whether one can take back shells from Sint Maarten to the USA, I am still confused. Is there a forum discussion here on TTOL that I can look at or does anyone have an answer based on their research or personal experience?
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 11:05 PM

Some people will bring them back. Some people will encounter problems and others will not. Use common sense and you should be ok but this topic could easily turn controversial.

I am pretty sure we have a few shells from SXM here now.
Posted By: pat

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 11:16 PM

Us, too, over all these years.

I've never found (probably because I've never really looked....) a definitive answer to this question in print, but about fifteen years ago we attended an evening seminar at Mahoe Campground on St. John, and they told us we definitely should NOT remove seashells from the beach as they do recycle back into the sand and natural environment. The rational being if every visitor to the beach brought back just a couple, it would impact the natural seaside environment. I don't know much about this but it sounds reasonable to me....... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 11:39 PM

How about "sea glass"? I guess "recycling" trash (broken beer, soda, etc. bottles) is different? I have no idea on either one but I know a lot of shells and sea glass find their way to various places and it is not by nature.
Posted By: pat

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 11:44 PM

No answer or guess in that one. I guess they didn't feel it had environmental ramifications. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: LeeLee

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 11:46 PM

Aren't the beaches on St. Johns considered nature preserves? That could make a difference.
A few years back I brought home a big bag of shells from Shell Beach on St. Barts. I now have a great shell filled lamp in my Lewes, De. home. I look at it and remember.
Just make sure you clean them well. I suggest using Clorox.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 11:53 PM

Hey Lee Lee, do you still own the place we visited on the beach, years ago??? Great place!!!
Posted By: moontide

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/23/2016 11:59 PM


Agree. I don't want to make it a long discussion. Thanks for all the responses.
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/24/2016 02:02 AM

From the Customs and Border Protection website.

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Seashells are generally allowed into the U.S. if they are not taken from endangered or threatened species (CITES protected), and they are completely sanitized from the creatures that inhabited them, and any other agricultural material such as sand, clay, soil, etc. A traveler may bring in a reasonable amount of seashells for personal use as a memento of their trip. Large quantities of seashells being brought into the U.S. for the purposes of using them in crafting, landscaping, or for commercial use are prohibited.
Posted By: biglar

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/24/2016 02:56 AM

Aren't there stores on St. Martin that sell souvenir bags of shells to take home with you. I have plenty of shells from just about all the islands in the Caribbean. All except St. John's since when I left Trunk Bay, the security guard examined my bag and took the shells I had. It is a US nature preserve as someone else said and it is illegal to remove anything from a nature preserve.
Posted By: Bahston

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/24/2016 04:00 AM

I look to the Nature Foundation for my guidance on the question. CITES (the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) is the big issue. I'm not aware of any CITES issues with small shells. Conch shells are a problem, as well as coral.

http://www.naturefoundationsxm.org/projects_programs/CITES.htm
Posted By: Ellen777

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/24/2016 04:27 AM

It is a hit and miss affair for me. We got conch shells in VX - Margarita island - no problem bringing them back - in STT, I had two and they would not let me bring them in. They kept them. I regularly bring back a few small bags of small shells from AXA, no questions, I had one big conch shell last year and they let me keep it. I hope when I unpack at home that they are there, but if they are not, I will try again next year. There are not that many big shells on the beaches of Anguilla, so anything is a real find.
Posted By: WayneH

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/24/2016 12:17 PM

I have personal experience with one item. About five years ago while snorkeling off of Orient Beach my friend Marge found a conch shell. She was so proud that she dove down for it that she wanted to take it home. Well, we only got as far as security and they confiscated it. I asked them why as it wasn't a living thing. The security person said that it could be used as a weapon. She then held it up and made a clubbing motion with it. Okay, one can never win with security. The conch shell was lost forever. Wayne <><
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/24/2016 12:48 PM

The US Virgin Islands is not on the list of Caribbean areas where you can bring back conch shells from. The full list is available from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
Posted By: denverd0n

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/24/2016 02:12 PM

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LeeLee said:
Aren't the beaches on St. Johns considered nature preserves? That could make a difference.

Yes they are, and yes it does.
Posted By: steveandcindylou

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/26/2016 05:02 PM

In the glass case of prohibited items, as you are about to enter the first checkpoint (before the escalator) you will see conch shells. You are not supposed to bring them onboard. The US doesn't care-SXM does.
Posted By: Dansc

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/26/2016 05:35 PM

its not for any other reason than it is a safety issue as it can be used as a weapon. Has nothing to do with SXM not wanting you to take them. Same as the glass case in your airport at home, they have all sorts of random things they dont want taken on board
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/26/2016 05:52 PM

In the states it's a TSA issue. In other countries its a security issue.
Posted By: boucharda

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 02/27/2016 01:04 PM

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Dansc said:
its not for any other reason than it is a safety issue as it can be used as a weapon. Has nothing to do with SXM not wanting you to take them. Same as the glass case in your airport at home, they have all sorts of random things they dont want taken on board


Put them in checked bags...
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 07/05/2016 03:33 PM

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steveandcindylou said:
In the glass case of prohibited items, as you are about to enter the first checkpoint (before the escalator) you will see conch shells. You are not supposed to bring them onboard. The US doesn't care-SXM does.


We now have an answer, based on this story , you must have a special permit to remove conch shells from SXM. You can't even have them in your checked luggage without the permit.
Posted By: JoeandLori

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 07/09/2016 10:14 PM

We bring small amount of shells back regularly, about every six months. This includes sea glass. The only thing you can not have in carry on is a conch shell. We had one confiscated on our second trip leaving SXM. They said we should have put it in our checked bags. In to the US there are no problems unless you are trying to bring in live sea products.

Hope this helps!

Joe & Lori
Posted By: Bahston

Re: Sea Shells back to USA question - 07/10/2016 02:25 AM

What I've previously understood, and had confirmed from this thread, is that small sea shells and sea glass are not a problem.

However, Conch shells are a problem if SXM Security or US Customs becomes aware of them. They will be seized, based on CITES.
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