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Help.....being kicked out of Paradise.

Posted By: EdB

Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 03:03 AM

Things are crazy down here in SXM. As of this afternoon, Royal Islander has informed us that ALL VISITORS TO THE ISLAND HAVE TO BE EVACUATED BY SUNDAY. Even though we have two more weeks after Saturday at our resort....they say that there really at this point anything they can do, since the government is ordering the shutdown...and we will not be able to stay at the place we paid for for over thirty years...and are paid up till April 4. Problem is....we came in on JetBlue like thousands of us have and did in the past...and JetBlue is saying that they will NOT be flying planes into SXM to take us out. So at this point...we are totally in limbo. JetBlue did say that they will credit our accounts....but that surely ain't going to help the hundreds or thousands of JB people stuck here on the island. Called American...and they are saying they will only book and change people with later flights on AMERICAN ONLY. Our resort is taking a list of people's scheduled flights......with hopes that the governement may bre able to ''pressure'' airlines like JB and Spirit to fly in the planes empty and take people back home... How are other people on the island currently handling this??? We are at a total loss on what to do next. HELP.......
Posted By: islandgem

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 03:38 AM

I have friends that are flying from SXM to St. Kitts and then flying home from there. Perhaps you could look into flying to another island by Winnair and see what you could arrange. Sorry to hear about everyone stranded on the island looking for flights home.
Posted By: PelicanPirate

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 05:35 AM

Oh my
Posted By: markis

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 08:46 AM

I got nothing! man that sucks, I am very sorry for you guys, and I wish you well. I think the government will help, oh crap I can't believe I just said that.
Posted By: bslk

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 10:30 AM

I just checked with American they show a flight for Thursday that has seats available. I also checked the flights for Friday and Sunday they show no availability. My wife is on the Sunday flight that I just booked last night.
Posted By: BillandElaine

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 10:34 AM

Nothing on the government website about any hotel closings or anyone being forced off the island. According to them, hotels are open.
Posted By: beachy

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 10:52 AM

We came down on Jet Blue Feb.23 and were supposed to leave March 24, called Jet Blue and they want to give me a refund as they don’t know when they will be able to fly into SXM. I think we will have to stay until this all calms down, as I don’t want to be stuck in an airport with big crowds as my husband is high risk with his health issues.
All restaurants are closed on the French side, and Club O beach was closed yesterday.
Posted By: bbeach

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 10:55 AM

Staying in a villa at orient, were suposed to stay until April second didn't like the tone of things, I was hearing about getting back to the US at some point so got our tickets changed on Delta and now leave on Saturday. We are from Iowa and everything is closed the same as here but at least we will be home. Hate to miss our time here but have our place reserved for next year and hope this is over so we can return.
Posted By: NeilRooney

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 10:56 AM

Try getting to St Thomas or San Juan
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 11:23 AM

Delta supposedly has flights out a few more days this week, that is how I got out yesterday and friends getting out today. United did have seats for today but likely a very unfavorable touting for you. I also found continually checking online was the BEST option and availability comes and goes.

From the Daily Herald article, it appears they are now going to ban even SXM residents from returning. It also mentions non-resident entry ended at 11:59pm Tuesday. Immigration in SXM viewed it differently or the article is wrong as 3 US passengers (Delta inbound) attempted to enter SXM yesterday and were put back on the plane, delaying our departure by an hour.

DO NOT WAIT!. I was told this by SXMWendell (who went through a hurricane many years ago on the island) and did not heed his advice. I listened to the airlines and their personnel and it was a mistake. This is the call of the SXM government and likely communication with the US Airlines was not the best and the reaction by the US airlines could be better.

Good luck.

As Elaine stated, the island government (at least not to my knowledge or yet) is NOT kicking people off the island or out of the resorts. That may be a resort call but the bigger problem is WHEN can you leave.

DAILY HERALD LINK
Posted By: BillandElaine

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 11:48 AM

residents with proper documentation can return up until 22nd. http://www.sintmaartengov.org/Press...yINWG338ZEz5_tP9WKQLzos1rscINI5oDvU-6woE
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 11:57 AM

Looks like the Daily Herald is wrong. Very confusing for sure.

~ Residents have until March 22 to return ~

PHILIPSBURG--As of 11:59pm Tuesday, persons who are not residents of St. Maarten are not allowed to enter the country. After Sunday, March 22, no one, not even residents, will be allowed entry to the country.

The more stringent restrictions come as the country tightens its measures to stem the spread of the coronavirus COVID-19, on the heels of the first COVIID-19 case in St. Maarten on Tuesday.
Posted By: Leagle49

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 12:00 PM

Our flight home on Unites on April 1sr has been cancelled. We are now on United's Friday flight, their last on from the island. There are still seats available on it.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 12:01 PM

Previous Statement from the PM.

Thanks for the updated link Elaine.

Attached picture SXM PM.jpg
Posted By: BillandElaine

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 12:03 PM

So hard when they send info piecemeal. Very confusing and frustrating.
Posted By: ChiTownHarry

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 12:03 PM

We changed out flights on AA to MIA from April 1 to March 22. There are seats available on it as of yesterday.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 12:07 PM

For sure and thank you for your on the spot information in a very timely manner. Good to at least see you guys, even just if passing.
Posted By: PelicanPirate

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 12:14 PM

These are trying times for sure. One must endure and find the best way forward.

As always, this group will offer as good advise as anywhere, but one will be faced with the decision to weather it out on island or make the trek to home anyway you can.

Best of luck to all of you as we all do hope the best.

Get ready to hang out at home. I Cant complain, but probably will
Posted By: DarkDiggler

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by BillandElaine
Nothing on the government website about any hotel closings or anyone being forced off the island. According to them, hotels are open.


I was told by folks staying there La Playa (formerly known as L'Hoste) closed yesterday.
Posted By: BillandElaine

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 01:37 PM

I guess that's their choice. Government is not closing hotels, where would people go?
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 01:52 PM

Ed--I don't get it, I have not read anywhere that the SXM government is FORCING anyone to leave. Regardless, don't wait for Jet Blue!!! Go online and book your own ticket home on whatever airline you can!
Posted By: Wingman

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:04 PM

Ed, I'm pretty sure there are villas available at BSV, Beachside Villas, not too far from where you are. Contact Tracy Mascarin,
Sxmbsv@gmail.com

I saw her mention that she has villas available on another Facebook Site. Plus I know she has at least our villa that was coming up. We were supposed to go there March 25th thru April 7th.
Posted By: SammyM

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:04 PM

Wow! I can't begin to imagine the stress this is causing. What I would do is check with every Caribbean-based airline that runs service to PJIA. That list would include Air Caribs (may be able to get to Barbados), LIAT (may be able to find service to St. Vincent and the Grenadines, or even Grenada), or as mentioned above Winair (but I'm not sure where those flights go). I would think the number one priority is finding flight that will get you off St. Martin first, then try to make other arrangements wherever and whenever you land. Maybe from those islands you can get to a U.S. territory, and I would think those territories would still have connecting flights to the states.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:06 PM

Wingman--Beachside would be the best place to self isolate that I could think of! You can prepare meals and the beach there is basically private.
Posted By: Bluesfan

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:08 PM

LaVista has plenty of vacancies if you choose to stay. I know of 2 women who stayed. One plans to hunker down for the duration.
Posted By: Wingman

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
Wingman--Beachside would be the best place to self isolate that I could think of! You can prepare meals and the beach there is basically private.


If you have to self isolate on SXM, I can think of no better...LOL.
Posted By: SXMWendell

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:22 PM

DO NOT go to another Caribbean island. Get any flight to the US or a territory. That will open up options that you have a better chance of controlling and getting back home.

Wendell
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:27 PM

Wendell--agreed, try to get to St Thomas, rather than another country. But first try to get something booked online to get to the US mainland.
Posted By: kim

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by SXMWendell
DO NOT go to another Caribbean island. Get any flight to the US or a territory. That will open up options that you have a better chance of controlling and getting back home.

Wendell


Exactly!!!! Just get to the mainland US, then take it from there.
Posted By: Southshore

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:53 PM

I know this may sound a bit crazy.... but a few years ago, when my husband and I were still visiting SXM, we spoke to a man who had come to the island with a large family group. They had found it more economical to hire a private plane rather than to all fly commercial. If there were enough people who could band together on this, would a private plane make any sense? Even if it only got you all to a point where other flights were available.
Posted By: sxmmartini

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 02:55 PM

I'm in... TTOL first flight back to St. Maarten/ St. Martin 🌴
Posted By: tbaybob

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 07:14 PM

We were to leave on Westjet April 2nd.Have been advised by them nothing available on their flights which cease on March 22.They will suspend flights until April 23rd Suggested I contact Canadian government.
Posted By: foreversxm

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 07:26 PM

Kicked out? When and where did the government say that? I see no new entry after Sunday but not telling foreigners to leave as far as I can see. I’d rather be isolated on a sunny beach away from people down there than the USA craziness getting infected. Facts not fear please.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 07:28 PM

I think it's pretty clear that the SXM government did NOT say that. This is apparently an action on behalf of Royal Islander.
Posted By: Bahston

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 07:37 PM

tbaybob, there were other flights to Canada on the list (subject to change) which PJIA put out yesterday. Perhaps one of those has seats.

Air Canada on 3/21, 1 flight to YYZ
Air Transat on 3/21, 1 flight to YYZ and 1 to YUL
Sun Wing on 3/19, 1 flight to YYZ and 1 to YUL
Posted By: foreversxm

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 07:42 PM

Thank you. So much miss or wrong information.
Please tell us your source if your gonna make a statement like that because some people will believe anything obviously. Facts not fear please.
Posted By: Bdallas

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 10:12 PM

We just stayed at Beachside. Last week (either Thursday or Friday) we were told they had 4 cancellations then, so yes, they do have room. The only problem is the view. All you see is water, little Yachts, planes landing and sand. 😄
Posted By: Billtjw

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 10:49 PM

OBBRbis asking all guests to be gone by Sunday the 22 nd, I do not rent there but was at the bar when the Gen Manager stated that. One American couple pointed out that the only flight out they could secure was on the 28 th and he told them they must try and get other arrangements to be gone by the 22 nd, even though they were booked at OBBR until April 2 nd.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/18/2020 11:40 PM

I am wondering if EdB might have gotten out since he has not posted since earlier today.
Posted By: Leagle49

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/19/2020 11:38 AM

At Simpson Bay Resort, Marcel, the manager, hosted a meeting yesterday morning. He said that the resort would NOT close. They will remain open and guests can stay as long as they want with special discounted rates (no indication of the price).
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/19/2020 11:43 AM

Thanks for the update and good luck to you two on getting out. Sorry we did not get to meet up. Keep the board posted as to your esperience.
Thanks.
Posted By: BlueGreenWater

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/19/2020 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Leagle49
At Simpson Bay Resort, Marcel, the manager, hosted a meeting yesterday morning. He said that the resort would NOT close. They will remain open and guests can stay as long as they want with special discounted rates (no indication of the price).

Marcel is the gold standard for resort managers, and always has been.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Help.....being kicked out of Paradise. - 03/19/2020 02:03 PM

Ed--what's going on with you? It seems you haven't been online here since you posted this.
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