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Frustrations at PJIA

Posted By: SXMScubaman

Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 04:13 AM

https://www.thedailyherald.sx/islands/tourists-complain-about-unclear-travel-and-health-requirements
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 09:15 AM

No kidding. This is what happens when things are unclear, change multiple times and the "powers that be" seem not to agree on what is actually required.
Posted By: Uksimonusa

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 12:07 PM

Strange, most tests in the US are carried out under the EUA, so they are happy to use those tests to portray hoe bad the US is doing, but not happy to use them for entry, can't have it both ways
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 01:03 PM

Interesting, as the story is correct, that the requirements listed online no longer have the "no EUA" in the requirements. And wow, four days of quarantine waiting for results??? Yikes..
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 02:49 PM

Up until Yesterday the stmaartenehas.com website showed test with the EUA statement were not accepted, so I don't buy the story that requirements were changed at the last minute or not clearly communicated. It's the failure of the travelers for not asking questions about what their RT-PCR test will say before they got them done. They should be lucky they only had to pay $125 for a retest, because that is a deal compared to what others are charging.
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by wilsonck
Up until Yesterday the stmaartenehas.com website showed test with the EUA statement were not accepted, so I don't buy the story that requirements were changed at the last minute or not clearly communicated. It's the failure of the travelers for not asking questions about what their RT-PCR test will say before they got them done. They should be lucky they only had to pay $125 for a retest, because that is a deal compared to what others are charging.


My understanding, based on limited research, is that no tests have been approved in the US other than under the Emergency Use Authorization. Why SXM chose to exclude those tests is anyone's guess, but I speculate that they didn't really understand what its significance was. Now that they ave more knowledge, they've eliminated that exception. Again, just speculation on my part, but it seems to make sense.
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 03:15 PM

I agree with everything you said, however I would just caution about them eliminating the EUA. Just because it is off the website, I would wait to hear actual travelers going through with the EUA statement being allowed through without retesting or for Richard Panneflek, Minister of Public Health Social Development and Labour, issuing a statement saying test with the EUA statement are vaild for entry.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 03:44 PM

wilson--The other issue is that, even if they MAKE a statement today, they can change it tomorrow, as they already have, several times.
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 03:49 PM

I don't disagree, but as Carol just pointed out, things are changing daily. My hope is that things will have leveled out by the time we fly in November, and that the requirements will be clear-cut and more or less static.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 03:54 PM

Another issue could be what the US or individual states could require for returning travelers in the near future.
Posted By: The_Lurker

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Another issue could be what the US or individual states could require for returning travelers in the near future.


That is one of the issues I posted previously--And
what happens if you do catch the virus while there??

Things are getting very complicated. November is getting very close, and
the virus doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Another issue could be what the US or individual states could require for returning travelers in the near future.


Honestly are any states outside of Alaska and Hawaii actively enforcing their requirements? Even New York City talks a big game about having checkpoints and how aggressive they are going to enforce their quarantine, however, I know someone who traveled to NYC this past weekend from South Florida and no one ever checked them for anything. I also read a story about how a mother and daughter traveled to New York for the daughter to return to college. They made the daughter quarantine, but since the Mother was going to be there less than 2 weeks, she was allowed to travel freely getting groceries and such for her daughter. These rules are a joke.
Posted By: Bahston

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 07:17 PM

News reports say that CT has fined two returning residents, one for $1K and another for $2K. It's a start.
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 07:28 PM

I found the story on that, they were fined for not filling out the paperwork. It was the second time for the person who was fined $2k. Filling out the paperwork is one thing, but I haven't seen any enforcement after that. Even here in Florida, with the checkpoints that were setup at the state line and monitoring at the airport, no one ever checked up on people to ensured they quarantined. Plenty of people from the Northeast came down here when our quarantine rules were in place, but no one ever enforced them.
Posted By: boucharda

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 07:44 PM

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My understanding, based on limited research, is that no tests have been approved in the US other than under the Emergency Use Authorization


Exactly...so why even bother saying you can test prior to arrival when , if the testing lab is exact, it WILL have the EUA on it.

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They should be lucky they only had to pay $125 for a retest, because that is a deal compared to what others are charging.


Really? They had to pay for TWO tests with the second one basically an extortion event. I don't consider that any where near "lucky"
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by boucharda


My understanding, based on limited research, is that no tests have been approved in the US other than under the Emergency Use Authorization

Exactly...so why even bother saying you can test prior to arrival when , if the testing lab is exact, it WILL have the EUA on it.



I have seen pictures of results that people have received an RT-PCR test and their results did not have the EUA statement on them. People just need to ask before they get the test.
Posted By: boucharda

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 07:53 PM

That makes zero sense with ALL tests being performed under a EUA.

"So you will do a test for me and I will get the results back reasonably quick..great....but....ummm.....could you leave off the EUA thing for the only place on earth that doesn't like that correct documentation.Thanks a bunch "

Rinky dink extortion event....sorry...

...and WHO approved the SXM tests to make them the be all and end all of COVID tests? Probably the lab that charges the $125

Rant over...
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 09:00 PM

I'm not insinuating to ask to have the lab leave that notice off the results. Just the fact the lab did not put that statement on their results.
Posted By: Bahston

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 09:38 PM

SXM has dropped the not-EUA requirement, at least for now.
Posted By: BeachKitten

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 10:04 PM

Actually boucharda, it would be less expensive for me to get the $125 test in SXM.

There are numerous places here doing FREE testing. I could get one from the County or at work for FREE. Go with the wrong (EUA) test, and take the $125 one. However if they are upping the quarantine time to 4 days from the 1 for results...not so good.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/11/2020 10:13 PM

BeachKitten--yeah, that 4 day deal really sucks.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/12/2020 12:00 AM

I would need to have a 4 day supple of Rum. LOL
Posted By: wilsonck

Re: Frustrations at PJIA - 08/12/2020 12:19 AM

Could be worse. Norway just added France to their list of countries that have to do a 10 day quarantine upon arrival. Just took effect at midnight on Saturday, August 8th.. Flight from France just landed seconds after midnight. All passengers were required to do a 10 quarantine. Had they arrived before midnight, they would had no quarantine.
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