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Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long)

Posted By: irish1223

Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 12:14 AM

We will start out with a disclosure that we were supposed to be in St. Maarten during this period, but Irma dramatically changed our plans. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> Uncertain of where to go and after doing a lot of homework, we decided upon Curaçao. We had tried Aruba last year and didn’t care for it. This was our first visit to Curaçao. We went knowing it would not be SXM and determined not to make too many comparisons. That didn’t quite hold up, as comparisons always become inevitable. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />

We left the US on a Saturday afternoon via an American Airlines 7 am flight from Charlotte, with a too-long layover of almost 4 hours in Miami. The CLT Airbus-319 flight was uneventful and arrived in Miami on time. Our AA connecting flight out of MIA was delayed twice, along with a double gate change (one from a different terminal altogether). There was a problem with our original plane, so they had to get another. We finally got underway and arrived in Curaçao around 4:50 pm, an hour late. There was no movie, on this flight and the screens for the TV shorts they had were the ones that dropped down from the ceiling every few rows. The Boeing-737 seats felt small and cramped. We didn’t care, we were just happy to be on our way. The FA's were nice enough and the flight was smooth. We were starving by that point, so we bought the expensive food offerings and slept and read. We dislike connecting flights, but it was the only way to get there. Our AA flights back home, again connecting in Miami, were uneventful. The renovated departure hall is nicer than arrivals, though not many food choices and only a few souvenir shops. It is well air-conditioned, along with huge modern ceiling fans and adequate seating.
Suffice it to say that we are not fans of American Airlines. We normally fly Delta, but they don’t go to Curaçao, so there wasn’t much choice. We dealt with it.

Arrival in Curaçao was easy enough. We had filled out the embarkation cards online and so we just whisked through passport control by using the e-gates. We highly recommend doing so if you’re traveling there. The airport arrivals hall is nothing to write home about, but it wasn’t hard to navigate. We did carryon only, so didn’t have to deal with picking up checked luggage. We rented from D&D car rental, one of the locals by the name of Daniel. You can google it. He came highly recommended on TripAdvisor. The local rentals are not allowed on the part of the airport property where the major rentals are, but it was just a short walk to the right when you exit the arrivals hall. We were met by Daniel's rep and driven by van to their office 2 minutes down the road. You pay by cash, there is little paperwork, and in literally 5 minutes, we were on our way. Daniel is a joy to deal with; very responsive via email and gives detailed instructions on the cost, how to find him and how to pay. There are absolutely no hidden fees. We paid $400 for the car + $5/day for the Garmin in cash for 10 days, which included all insurance, zero liability, and the Garmin came pre-loaded with just about every place you’d want to visit or explore on the island. Daniel had it all under ‘Points if Interest’. This was EXTREMELY helpful and we strongly suggest use of a garmin if you travel here. The roads are good, traffic isn’t bad, but it can be confusing if you don’t know the lay of the land. There are lots of one-way streets and some roads are not marked that well.

We stayed at the Avila Beach Resort in the newer Octagon building with an ocean-view room. One can feasibly walk to downtown from the resort (probably 20 minutes), though we didn’t attempt it. The resort is quite nice, though it was a bit sedate for us at times. A little music or some activities would be welcome. It is very European with a mostly Dutch clientele. Everyone was friendly, but guests kept mostly to themselves. There was some minor construction going on in the hotel lobby, but other than a slightly disheveled appearance, this didn’t impact us in any way. The room itself was equipped with a small refrigerator, coffee maker, and a 2-burner stovetop, but no microwave or toaster. There were a few dishes, pans, and utensils, but this is basically a hotel room so it had pretty basic equipment. There was no ironing board or iron in the room, but the room info sheet said you could contact the front desk for one if needed. There was a hair dryer in the room, but no outlet by the mirror, which was strange.
Bed was quite firm, which one of us loved and one of us hated. We have a similar problem at home...lol. A small balcony with 2 chairs overlooking the grounds towards the beach. A/C worked VERY well and the free internet was quite adequate throughout the resort. We had no problems at all quickly connecting anywhere in the resort. Daily maid service was fine, though we never did have a top bed sheet. Not sure if that’s a European thing or not? It didn’t matter, the duvet was soft and comfortable. Pillows were quite firm. Neither of us cared for them. Outside on the grounds there is an infinity-like pool with loungers and umbrellas. The pool water temperature was enjoyable. There are also some umbrellas and papalas on the beach area. More on that in a minute. There is a workout room, though we didn’t use it (or even see it...lol). There are 3 restaurants on site, along with a beach bar. Food was very good, especially in the Blues Restaurant. We ate there several times throughout our stay. There is a nice breakfast buffet each morning, but the cost is $20 pp extra. There are several excellent restaurants within easy walking distance. Security at the hotel is good and there are also security guards outside the gates when folks are walking to and from the nearby restaurants. We used the usual common sense, but never felt unsafe anywhere on the island. Never.

Most of the resorts and hotels on the island (including Avila) have man-made beaches which look like lagoons. This was the first (and main)thing we didn’t care for. They look nicer in pictures than they do up close. The purpose is to make calm swimming areas. They do this by building a wall of rocks around the hotel beach and filling the bottom with sand. There is a small open area in the middle of the rock walls to allow some sea to flow in and out (think of the letter ‘C’ with the opening being toward the ocean). This creates a calm area with little surf and a gradual sloping entrance into the water. It is great for kids or non-swimmers because there is little to no surf within the rocked-off area. One can also swim outside the walled-in area in the open ocean, where there is generally better snorkeling, but stronger surf. The problem is that these man-made areas can get a little 'icky' (for lack of a better word). Because there is little water flow or actual hard surf, the ‘lagoons’ tend to be somewhat still and get some silt, which makes them appear cloudy. Some have algae in them, which made us hesitant to swim in them. Though most algae won’t hurt you, it doesn’t make us feel comfortable or enthusiastic about swimming through it. Some were better than others, but you have to make your own call about it at various places. A lot of people simply swam in them (and loved them). Some stuck to the pool, but we can do that at home.

What we absolutely fell in love with were the natural beaches on the west end of the island. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> Oh my! Places like Cas Abou and Kenepa (Playa Knip) and Daaibooi. Stunning turquoise water and open sea surrounded on the sides by small cliffs and rocks (there is a great jumping cliff at Knip, if you’re daring). There are other natural beaches too, some more hidden than others. You have to rent a car and go and explore. Don’t be afraid to go off the beaten path. You will be rewarded with some of the prettiest white-sand beaches and startlingly blue water. These alone were worth the trip. Some have facilities such as bathrooms (don’t be surprised if you have to pay a guilder to use the restrooms), small snack bars, and snorkeling equipment. Some have loungers and umbrellas or papalas (get there early for the best selection, as the sun here can be very intense). The beaches on Curaçao tend to be smaller, they are not your typical mile-long extended beaches, but they are very beautiful. There are a few where you could be the only ones there if you time it right. Some are more basic and don’t have facilities, but are still stunning to spend some time on. Bring some food and water, throw down a blanket or towel and enjoy. Don’t miss these west beaches - to us, they were the highlight of our trip and worth every penny it took to get here and where we spent most of our days.

<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/dine.gif" alt="" /> Restaurants: We ended up eating most of our meals at the Avila Resort restaurants, just due to general laziness after spending the day at the beaches, but also enjoyed a couple of others. Rozendael's is just down the block from Avila and was fabulous. We went downtown twice (don’t miss doing so) and had one lunch at the lovely Gouvernour de Rouville Restaurant and another delicious light lunch at the Royal Dutch Cheesery in the Rif Fort complex. Make sure to visit the floating market (it doesn’t really float) and the walkable Queen Emma Bridge (which does float). It’s quite pretty lit up at night. Lots of restaurants and stores to explore downtown. Fun. We also had a nice afternoon at the Mambo Beach area. Lots of little shops, along with many connected beaches (man-made, but not too bad here), and a Starbucks so I was able to get my caramel Frappuccino fix. Haha, there are priorities. We had lunch twice at the Greenhouse Restaurant on the Mambo strip - very good chicken or lamb shawarmas, among many other choices. A word of caution: while it varies from place to place, overall service on the island tends to be slow, so patience is needed. Everything is on island time. But that’s why we’re here, right, to slow down? An added note: the local currency is the Dutch guilder, but American dollars are accepted just about everywhere. You might receive change in guilders however.

We truly enjoyed our time on this island. It definitely wasn’t St. Maarten, but it was a good second option for us. YMMV. As for a quick rundown of those inevitable comparisons to SXM we mentioned earlier? Driving was easier here on Curaçao. There aren’t as many crazy scooter/motorcycles cutting in and out among the cars. Traffic was less, roads generally better overall in most places. The garmin was easy and convenient to use and, more importantly, got us where we needed to go. Gas stations were abundant and easy to use. Some of the beaches on Curaçao were just as pretty, if not more so at a select few, but we missed Orient and Anse Marcel beaches a great deal. They’re livelier and more fun than anything we found on Curaçao. None had multiple cute little beach bars like Orient. Most had one small snack shack with limited snacks and beer. And, as we said, we disliked the man-made 'lagoons'. Visit the natural west beaches instead. The food is generally better in SXM - it’s not called the gourmet capital of the Caribbean for nothing - and there are many more choices on SXM. We found Curaçao a bit too sedate to spend an extended period of time, though there’s more to do than what we saw in just 10 days. We think SXM has more activities and nightlife, better resorts, and overall a livelier vibe. While the locals in Curaçao are very friendly, they aren’t as open as those we’ve found on SXM (perhaps because there is more of a European clientele on Curaçao). Of course, it’s only fair to point out that there is also a familiarity factor in play. We’ve been traveling to SXM for 12 years now and have made many friends there, both locals and repeat visitors. This was our first trip to Curaçao and we were feeling our way around. There wasn’t anywhere near the comfort level we have attained on SXM. With that being said, we have to also admit that we felt safer in Curaçao than we've felt in recent years on SXM. We weren’t looking over our shoulders or worried about driving around the next bend. There’s something to be said for safety. We hope SXM gets its increasing crime under control, but that’s another discussion.

So would we return to Curaçao? Absolutely. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> It’s a good island with friendly people and clean facilities. Well worth the time and money invested. Do we like it as much as SXM? The easy answer is 'no', or 'don’t be silly', or 'of course not'. But isn’t that what travel is all about? To experience new places and new people and find the places we want to return to again and again? SXM is that for us. Curaçao, however, is now on the backup short list and there’s something to be said for that. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />

Sorry for the length of this report. It tends to get wordy when one does it all at once, rather than day by day.

P.S. - Really, really wanted to post this report with pics, but since PB isn't helping any longer, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to do so -- even after reading the instructions. Too bad, the visuals would have helped. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 01:34 AM

Thanks for much for the report!!
Posted By: SXMFOX

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 01:48 AM

GREAT TRIP REPORT!!! This has to be the best, spot on!!!! Wish we had caught up with you guys to experience the beaches on the west side. Sounds as if we really missed out. Thank you for taking the time to let everyone know of an extra island that folks can experience. Thank you so much for bring up the picture situation. We are very techie but we can not figure out how to send pictures on this sight with I phones or iPads. Thank you for bring this problem up. We thought we were the only ones with this issue. Hope to see you in the future on SXM.

Gary & Catherine
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 02:02 AM

Well, thanks, Gary and Catherine! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/thanks.gif" alt="" /> We're glad you enjoyed reading it. Wish we could have figured out the photo thing. We're pretty tech-savvy too, but it has us befuddled for sure. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> Wonder if it has something to do with using Mac rather than PC? Ah, well. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/smashpc.gif" alt="" />

We, too, wish we had caught up with you both while there. Hopefully we'll do just that one day on SXM!
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 03:06 AM

Again, as far as posting pictures here, you can post a link to pictures you have uploaded online, wherever. You can also reduce the size of the picture and upload it here on TTOL..
Posted By: pat

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 04:26 PM

Hi, Robin,

What a great trip report! Thank you so much for sharing it with all of us.

When our SXM trips for this year started to fall apart, we had two islands on our someday list and Curacao was one of them but as luck would have it, we had better options traveling to Antigua in March when we finally decided to cancel our regular SXM trip. (We just gave up altogether on a November trip this year but we seriously hope to make up for it next November!) And like you, once to Aruba was enough for us though there was nothing wrong with it.

The next time we decide to step outside our personal norms, your report makes Curacao that much more likely as our next new place to go.

Again, sincere thanks......
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 04:47 PM

Thanks, Pat! I'm sure you'll have a great time in Antigua in March. We did a cruise stop there one time a number of years ago. I don't remember too much of it, as we took one of the tour excursions on a catamaran, but I do remember thinking it might be worth a return trip one day. Nothing will ever be like our SXM, but sometimes a visit or two elsewhere helps us to remember and appreciate that fact. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

I look forward to your trip report when you get back! I always enjoying reading them. Hope you are well.

Robin
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 04:48 PM

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Carol_Hill said:
Again, as far as posting pictures here, you can post a link to pictures you have uploaded online, wherever. You can also reduce the size of the picture and upload it here on TTOL..


Thanks, Carol! Either my brain or my computer is giving me a hard time with the photo thing, but I'll figure it out eventually. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Blush.gif" alt="" /> Photoshop 'used' to be easy.
Posted By: LBI2SXM

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 05:55 PM

Thanks for an honest evaluation of Curacao. Glad you enjoyed parts of it. It's not for everyone and it differs from SXM in many ways but we have been there over 12 times and have learned to love the place.(and SXM too). There are many Caribbean islands to explore and each one has it's own "personality".
Posted By: islandgem

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/10/2017 08:39 PM

Thanks for an extensive report Robin. I did not see any mention of Karakter so perhaps you did not get to try it on that island. The original owners are running that one and from all accounts it is very good. Glad to hear you enjoyed this vacation and I agree sometimes going to different places can be refreshing. Perhaps it in the future it will be another island to put on my list.
Posted By: fabila

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/11/2017 04:03 AM

Thanks for the report. Are there hotels closer to the west end beaches?
Posted By: thesimpsons

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/11/2017 03:59 PM

Thank you for the nice report!
Posted By: LBI2SXM

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/11/2017 05:58 PM

There is one hotel, the Kura Hulanda (sister resort is in Willamstadt) that is very nice. It's up on a cliff and there are stone stairs down to the beach. Beach is a little rocky but nice. Most of the places to stay are either apartments or small condos, most quite affordable and most on or above the beach. Westpunt is only 30 mins. by car so staying closer to town is another option but do not miss those beautiful natural beaches in the west. To clarify, the majority of "man made" beaches are built with stone type bulkheads which prevent big waves off the beaches and make for very calm swimming. I never saw one with algea as the water flows from the sea to the beach constantly. Curacao is very windy and the southern coast of the island has waves from the wind.
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/12/2017 06:21 AM

Elizabeth, we did indeed stop at Karakter one day with the intention of spending the day there; but it was very crowded and the only chairs left available were not shaded. While it’s in a beautiful spot as far as scenery goes, we did not care for the beach there. It is very rocky and you have to climb down some stairs to get into the water. There were a lot of divers there and I imagine it’s a great area for diving. We did take some pics there, but can’t seem to post them. The bar and menu looked good, but I burn like the dickens in the sun, so we ended up leaving and going to Playa Knip instead. While the Curaçao Karakter is plenty nice, we definitely liked the SXM Karakter beach itself better. One thing of note is that the Curaçao Karakter is located in a gated community with a guard shack where the guard gives you a parking sticker to place on your dashboard. Not a big deal, we just didn’t care for all the formality of getting into place. (We like our beaches a little on the natural, wild side <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />).

All in all though, Curaçao is a great island in its own right and I think you would enjoy your time there. It’s not SXM to us, but then no other island among the 12 or 13 we've visited over the years is. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" /> But as you reiterated, it's sometimes refreshing to visit other places from time to time. We're very glad we went.
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/12/2017 06:30 AM

There are mostly private condo rentals near the western beaches, but not really big resorts or hotels, other than the Kura Hulanda. That area is a bit out of the way with few restaurants or activities other than the beaches. Very pretty though. It is about a 30-40 minute drive from downtown Willemstad, depending on which beaches you go to. The Avila Resort we stayed in was only a 5-7 minute drive from downtown Willemstad in one direction and the Mambo beach strip/shopping Blvd in the other. We compared it a bit with what we do on SXM; that is, sleep on the Dutch side and spend the day on the French-side beaches. Everyone has their own personal preferences as to where to stay and what is more convenient to be near. If we go back, we would still prefer to sleep closer to town.
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/12/2017 06:43 AM

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LBI2SXM said:
To clarify, the majority of "man made" beaches are built with stone type bulkheads which prevent big waves off the beaches and make for very calm swimming. I never saw one with algea as the water flows from the sea to the beach constantly. Curacao is very windy and the southern coast of the island has waves from the wind.


Maybe that was the difference when we were there — it wasn’t very windy at all, just a nice slight breeze. Much less windy than when we were in Aruba last year. There was very little movement at all in the 2 man-made beaches at Avila and the bottom was very cloudy and silty. Not much flow between them and the ocean during our stay. Mambo beach area was slightly better and we did swim there for a short while. No comparison to the western beaches with super clear water and gentle surf. Those are the Curaçao beaches we fell in love in and the reason we would go back.
Posted By: The_Lurker

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/12/2017 07:56 PM

Very, very nice report!

You were saying that the beaches on the western side are natural and calm??

But if I read correctly there are no hotels close by?

We are big fans of spending days on the beach where we can swim and don't have to get up 5:30 in the morning for an umbrella or hut.
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/13/2017 04:18 PM

There are some nice condos and apartments you can rent over by the western beaches. And, yes, the beaches there are gorgeous, natural (meaning not man-made), AND calm. Grote Knip (also known as Playa Kenepa) was our favorite, followed closely by Cas Abou (you can google them), though there are others just as charming (Daaibooi, Playa Mari). If you wish to stay closer to those beaches, I would suggest checking out Airbnb for condo/apartment rentals. The town of Westpunt is also nearby and you may be able to find places there, as well. We didn’t drive into Westpunt, the closest we got was about 5 miles away at Knip.

We very much enjoyed our time in Curaçao and will definitely consider a return trip at some point in the future. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

One thing I will add is that wearing water shoes is highly recommended at a lot of the beaches. Curaçao beaches tend to have a bit of coral and rocks at the entrances into the water (with some nice sand bottoms just past that). It was easier for me with water shoes on, though Ed chose not to wear them and did fine.
Posted By: GettingThere

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/16/2017 02:35 PM

We too opted for Curacao in place of our St Martin trip. We did a VRBO in Cas Abou Estates. It actually has its own very small private beach and is just a few minutes from Cas Abou beach. We spent most of our time on the Western beaches and Knip was probably our favorite but there were many beautiful beaches. Although I look forward to going back to St Martin and supporting the businesses there, I definetly hope to return to Curacao.
Posted By: GettingThere

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/16/2017 03:43 PM

Fabila, while not really a Hotel there are units available at The Coral Estates. They look and I think operate like hotel rooms. They have a beautiful infinity pool and the two restaurants ,one of which is Karacter. We enjoyed a day there and went back one evening for dinner right at the waters edge. I highly recommend it. Coral estates is a gated community with 24 hour security at the gates. As I mentioned in a previous post we stayed in Cas Abou Estates which is about 5 miles away but will consider Coral on a return trip.
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/17/2017 01:35 AM

Gary and Catherine (SXMFOX) stayed at Coral Estates, same week as we were in Curacao. They might be in a better position to tell you about their experiences there. We visited for the day, as stated above, but didn't stay because Karakter was pretty full at the time, with no shaded spots left. The infinity pool looked awesome.
Posted By: fabila

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/23/2017 03:37 AM

Thank you
Posted By: PelicanPirate

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/29/2017 04:42 PM

Great Report.

If you had to pick 1 perfect beach with snorkeling, chairs, umbrellas, food and drinks for a cruise stop what would it be?

What else could you squeeze in a stop or drive by on the way to/from that beach to say you saw some Curacao.

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Posted By: LBI2SXM

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/29/2017 05:39 PM

In Curacao, Cas Abou and Porto Marie are public beaches with all the amenities. Snorkeling just a walk in. Taxi there. Aruba, out of the 3, has the least best snorkeling.
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 11/30/2017 01:12 AM

Sent you a PM.
Posted By: gitter

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 12/30/2017 09:38 PM

Robin and Ed, Thank you for the excellent detailed report! It helped us decide to go that island next year!

Happy New year to ALL
Posted By: irish1223

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 01/02/2018 01:18 AM

You're very welcome -- glad it helped. We don't think you'll regret your decision. While not SXM, Curacao was a great place to visit. We plan to go back one day.
Posted By: Sandysnow

Re: Trip report Curacao Oct 28-Nov 7, 2017 (long) - 01/27/2018 03:05 PM

I thank you for the report! I agree that Aruba would not be for us either! Never been tho! Hate that expensive cardboard plane food also & will go to any lengths to avoid it! But I have to disagree with your experience with AA, have flown mostly with AA for decades & they are really accommodating, but absolutely hate MIA. Good restaurants, but just shitty overall experience & sometimes freezing!
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