Never been so busy!!

White bay, no balls after 11
CGB, filled by 3
Geat harbor, by 2...seriously?
Norman full by 330
3 med moors at sidneys.

Get your anchor skills up. Everyone is staying multiple nights at balls.

LOTS of europeans! French, belguim, and italians. Do you like speedos?

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That's why we go in the summer. No crowds, less speedos

Yeap, we wanted to try all the months, so we knew when to avoid.

Fine bunch of people on the Costa cuise ship. Turned CGB INTO A NUDE BEACH.

been trying to check out when and where the cruise ships are coming in but the bvi ports site doesnt have any information at all for march

It would be nice if people read up on local customs before they visited the islands. This is the local's home, I doubt the locals appreciated bare [censored] neked people flaunting their privates on the beach where kids play. Not good form unless you know that the beach is clothing optional

Had some interesting conversations with some locals and local business owners on various islands during our last stay. They are getting fed up with the behavior of not only the cruise folks but with the "new breed" of some charter people they are encountering. Seems the clientele has changed for the worst the last 5 years or so. And expect to find a lot more locked restrooms at various establishments.

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That's not good news by any means. One of the first things we did when planning our first sail was to learn about the islands and its people. We do everything we can to be respectful, appreciative and polite. My Admiral and I have both lived/ worked in high tourism areas and know what its like to experience "ugly" tourists.

And in the restaurants....

Three weeks ago, we were at the Top of the Baths. The woman next to me changed out of her bathing suit right at the table, out in the open. She was old enough to know better.****

My family is European and I lived and went to school there. I am accustomed to their beach attire and attitudes about nudity.

However, I was beyond shocked to see full female external genitalia at lunch, in a restaurant, three feet from my face. Thankfully, my son's back was to her so he didn't see it.

***She was from the same cruise ship line mentioned by another poster. For good or bad, they were easy to identify by the numbered stickers on their shirts and bathing suits.

Agree, Rita...

Hoping it is quieter in May...

http://www.bvibeacon.com/1/index.php?opt...yJjcnVpc2UiXQ==

This is why we come back in November.
greetings from Germany
Lars

Its funny Rita, when we had sports illustrated girls here a while back doing a film shoot, the girls were naked. Leverick Bay has never seen so many locals inc Police enjoying the show.

Sports Illustrated Model Naked -vs- Average Cruise Ship Passengers Naked......hmmmm, Nick....I am thinking no comparison.....<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Laugh.gif" alt="" />

<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />Is that the sign pointing to the nude beach??

I avoid any beach that has cruise ship passengers.

thanks for the link winterstale

Just back from our first trip to St Martin, we knew about the clothing optional beach scene and that didn't bother us, but trust me....no sports illustrated recruiters combing those beaches <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> Had a great time on the beautiful beaches and I'm starting my trip reports today since it's a snow day here! Yes, this is a shameless plug to encourage readership on the SXM forum <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />

Like the saying "When in Rome"

We had an eye burning experience a few years back with our only neighbor while at anchor. Woke up in the morning to see our neighbors on a 50ish mono in full "Porky Pig" mode. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> The winds were somewhat flat and we had both swung to within about 100 ft of each other. Let's just say we had breakfast while underway!

Gives a whole new meaning to bareboating.

We were walking on Orient Beach and my wife was several yards in front of me, she quickly turned towards me and put her arms in an X over her head (international sign of distress <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />) she said "you'll want to turn around!" I looked over her shoulder and saw a gentleman pointing out at the horizon....unfortunately his hands were on his hips <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> Come on man! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />

As Homer J Simpson would say: "the human wang is a beautiful thing". Just not in my face at the breakfast table, amIright?
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It is extremely disquieting to the locals. Having lunch at Stanley's in CGB once there was a 60+ woman sunbathing topless right in front. Two policemen standing on the steps. Senior policeman prodding the younger one to go tell her to cover up but the young one was having no part of it. I finally went out and called her attention to the two cops and suggested she cover up. Never seen such relieved policemen. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

I always find these conversations comical. People so easily offended by the human body or a style of bathing suit. Maybe we need to go back to victorian style suits that cover all exposed skin between the neck and feet.

I can understand locals resenting outsiders bringing their morals in and creating change. The natives in the south pacific probably resented the ministers who came to their islands and told them to cover up. Heck, they probably ate a few.

If a speedo gets you that worked up, maybe the problem isn't the speedo, but prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness as Mark Twain so aptly put...thanks Glenn that is a great tagline.

I'm not offended by the fat guy in the speedo, the six pack ab guy in the shorts to his calfs, the hot lady in the thong, or the fat lady in the one piece with ruffly skirt. I'm not even offended by the fat guy in the one piece with the ruffly skirt. We are all just people...no one better than the rest.

Absolutely, to each their own...within reason. Bodies and bathing suits or no bathing suits for that matter don't matter to me in a setting that is appropriate. You must admit the example of the woman at the Top of the Baths restaurant was unacceptable, children or no children. Would you change out of your suit in a restaurant? The gentleman whose little blue pill hadn't worn off proudly exposing it to my wife is unacceptable no? I laughed, but I'll admit that I'm judging him because I think he's a mental case the way he stood there looking at her. Societies have cultural norms, good or bad to you or me they are what they are. Maybe I'll try to change my clothes at the table of my favorite neighborhood restaurant here in Virginia, wonder how that will go over <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />

"LOTS of europeans! French, belguim, and italians. Do you like speedos?"

Ok, let's first get the spelling right, shall we? Belgians ...

Secondly, don't generalize too quickly about Europeans and Speedos. Being European myself, I have never owned a Speedo in my life, and neither have my family and friends as far as I know.

It's like saying that all American tourist wear Hawaiian floral shirts and are overweight ... am not referring to your avatar of course <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />

However ..... If it was a Costa cruise ship full of sleek Italians and French, I would also be horrified ...!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

I agree the woman at the top of the Baths was inappropriate and most likely illegal. Orient Beach is a well known clothing optional beach, and while an erect [censored] is outside of normality I wouldn't have given it a second thought. My wife would have chuckled....we've been to Orient Beach many times.

Not aware of any nude restaurants in VA, so let us know how it goes.

I've seen people dive at the Willy T and if I was a whaler I'd Harpoon them. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

I'll bet your son would have enjoyed seeing the lady <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

Over the years we've ran into several nude folks..as opposed to nekkid..that's the nude folks having fun. Years ago on a cruise out of San Juan, one of the stops was Martinique, we took a trip to some beach near a fancy hotel. There we're are least 15 young models, and I mean very attractive..who modeled swimwear and cover ups and would go around the beach showing ummm.."their offerings", changing tops and bottoms right in front of client. They had a large tent set up at one end with a bunch of merchandise. There too the young ladies were showing their wares..and some of the merchandise. My wife was looking at some of their cover ups..so naturally being the amazing husband I am, I went with her, told her to take all the time shopping she pleased and looked at the variety of merchandise being displayed. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> Other than a couple other incidents I usually looked elsewhere when confronted with au naturale sun worshippers.

Good for them for not being ashamed that they don't fit the perfect mold, and aren't concerned that people would refer to them as a whale.

Live and let live.
Sounds like they're from your part of the woods.
Congratulations

Sorry, Prospector, talk all you wish, but naked pictures of anyone gets us afoul of all kinds of filters for 'family' websites, which we can't afford.

Last year while at CGB, the whole crew of the Cat next to us were out on the trampoline dancing naked in the rain. Must have been from one of the drought areas! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/circle.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/circle.gif" alt="" />

My wife did chuckle <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> I don't know you, but if you saw this guy I'll bet you would have said that guy is proud of that thing and he wont be happy until everybody sees it<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> Seriously, I have nothing against nude or topless beaches/people trust me, we really enjoyed Orient nice beach, it was just that dork...I mean that guy. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> I'm heading up to the restaurant now that I'm done shoveling snow, let you know how it goes <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

A trip report that would be pretty interesting

I have been following this thread and just have to chime in about the "morals" of the BVI. FYI there are several "strips clubs" on good ole Tortola that are also brothels. That's right, for the right price you can take one of the pretty ladies upstairs for a ride. I asked a police officer about this one time and he did acknowledge this fact. When I asked if it was legal, he said no, just overlooked. So the next time you feel upset about seeing someone in a skimpy bathing suit or nude in the BVI, and you are worried that they might offend the locals, remember that on an island of less than 30K people, EVERY LOCAL knows about this. And if they are OK with it, I wouldn't worry myself too much about it.

Trip report from the restaurant? just returned, they laughed at me...judgmental sob's, someone yelled shrinkage! I yelled back "I've been in the cold shoveling snow all day!!" <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> I actually just posted Part-1 of our SXM trip, please read <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Cheers.gif" alt="" />

Actually, the only "official" nude part of Orient Beach is in front of the resort at the South side. A few years ago, the Gendarmes were busting anyone who ventured out of that area nekkid.

We just returned last night from the BVI...We found Mooring Balls on Cooper (2pm) Bitter End (4pm) Marina Cay (4pm) Little Harbor (4pm) and Sopers Hole (5pm) We anchored at White Bay (1pm) but not overcrowded. It was a magical trip Lots of Wind, more rain than usual, but another trip of a lifetime!

That change started once the cruise ships started coming and their morals being offended. I started going to OB in the early 90's and it was socially acceptable the whole length of the beach. Ahh the joy of cruise ships.

Yep, when we were there, there was a Disney ship shore excursion. Kids galore getting an education! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> oh I can bet there were some angry parents blaming Disney for that.... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />

Actually, no, local French families is what caused the changes along Orient. It had nothing to do with cruise ships. But they are an easy target.

Now a week later and Norman has all of 15 boats in it at noonish.

wow, its windy! Not a cloud in the sky.

Interesting. I haven't been to OB since about 1979 but back then there was a single dirt track that lead to a sand parking area and a little beach bar at the SE end. From there all the way to the clift at the north end was nothing. No houses, no roads, no nothing. There were definitely no French families to object. It being so isolated was why it gained its reputation as the best nude beach in the Caribbean.

1979 and now are totally different at Orient. Behind Orient Beach now is totally full of housing, a mix of locals living fulltime and rental properties.

The conversations I mentioned previously had little to do with any kind of nudity, but centered more on attitudes and bad behavior. More so on Jost and Tortola than anywhere else.