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Tying up to a Mooring

Posted By: GeorgeC1

Tying up to a Mooring - 06/13/2016 10:38 PM

Just a reminder that the worst possible way you can tie to a mooring is running a single line from one bow cleat through the pennant and over to the other bow cleat. The dock line will act like a saw over time cutting through the mooring loop. You also have zero redundancy if you chaff through the line. Seeing lots of boats tied on that way this week.
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Posted By: LocalSailor

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/13/2016 11:26 PM

What is a 'dock law' ? I agree with the overall advice.
Posted By: GeorgeC1

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/13/2016 11:30 PM

Damn spell correct. Fixed it!
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/14/2016 11:39 AM

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GeorgeC1 said:
Just a reminder that the worst possible way you can tie to a mooring is running a single line from one bow cleat through the pennant and over to the other bow cleat. The dock line will act like a saw over time cutting through the mooring loop. You also have zero redundancy if you chaff through the line. Seeing lots of boats tied on that way this week.
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On our December trip it seemed that the majority of boats were tied this way including some very large cats.
Posted By: CottageGirl

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/14/2016 02:21 PM

Do charter companies instruct on this before their boats leave the marina? Just wondering ....
We always use 2 lines.
Posted By: Flotsam

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/14/2016 04:07 PM

I know Voyage carefully demonstrates the proper two line method.
Posted By: ennisp

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/14/2016 04:19 PM

Along the same "line", I recall a post somewhere that suggested using a carabiner to secure the 2 bow lines to the mooring pennant. Might make the process quicker, easier and less stressful. Any thoughts on this? What size carabiner have you used? How much load could the carabiner be subject to?

Thanks,

Peter
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/14/2016 07:29 PM

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ennisp said:
Along the same "line", I recall a post somewhere that suggested using a carabiner to secure the 2 bow lines to the mooring pennant. Might make the process quicker, easier and less stressful. Any thoughts on this? What size carabiner have you used? How much load could the carabiner be subject to?

Thanks,

Peter


We use this one. We use it to secure one of the two lines to the pennant. The other line we loop through the pennant then back to the same cleat.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|2259973|2260015&id=125770
Posted By: MrEZgoin

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/14/2016 09:45 PM

I chartered a Moorings cat in Raiatea which was set up with a large carabiner on the bridle.

Picking up a mooring in Bora Bora, staff came out in the dinghy to help and hooked us up.

Unhooking the next morning, I found the carabiner with gate open clinging to a few strands of the loop in the mooring pendant.

Apparently, the mooring line was too thick to pass through the carabiner, so the resort staff passed the carabiner through the pendant eye and clipped it to the bridle.

My crew didn't think to mention this, and tension on the bridle pulled the attachment underwater, so I never saw it.

So the side loaded carabiner had unclipped itself overnight and fortunately caught on the mooring rope before we went completely adrift. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />

Learned several lessons on that one!
Posted By: Twanger

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/14/2016 11:41 PM

We have that mongo Wishart carabiner too.
It's great for a quick clip.
Working load is over 3,000 lb, which is a lot.

HOWEVER, DO NOT TRUST IT ALL NIGHT.

After 20 years of rock-climbing I can tell you unequivocally that carabiners that do not have gate-locks can unhook themselves from the line/rope/loop.
Posted By: NCSailor

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/15/2016 02:27 AM

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Twanger said:
We have that mongo Wishart carabiner too.
It's great for a quick clip.
Working load is over 3,000 lb, which is a lot.

HOWEVER, DO NOT TRUST IT ALL NIGHT.

After 20 years of rock-climbing I can tell you unequivocally that carabiners that do not have gate-locks can unhook themselves from the line/rope/loop.


You can make a gate lock with a 4-5" piece of 1/2" surgical tubing. just slide it over the gate.

Also, as mentioned we don't use the wichard as the sole attachment unless its a quick day stop. At night we alway have two lines.
Posted By: ennisp

Re: Tying up to a Mooring - 06/15/2016 06:03 PM

I got it...makes a lot of sense. Use a carabiner to make attaching the 1st bow line to the pennant easier. Then, for security, run the second or even both bow lines through the pennant at my leisure. Thank you!

Peter
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