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Sea Snake

Posted By: captaugie

Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 04:39 PM

So we are about to get in the dinghy at Foxy's Taboo to get back to the boat and what do we see? A cream colored pencil thin snake swimming on the surface. Although it was thin, it looked to be 3-4 feet in length. I had never seen one in 30 years. Very strange

Capt Augie
Posted By: casailor53

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 04:51 PM

There are NO sea snakes, in the Caribbean.
Posted By: CaptainJay

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 06:03 PM

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casailor53 said:
There are NO sea snakes, in the Caribbean.


I saw one in Maho Bay a few weeks ago so apparently the snakes don't know that.
Posted By: TIMRIM

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 06:07 PM

I have seen them in muskmeon bay coming to our night lights. They must be traveling thru.
Posted By: RickinAtlanta

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 06:21 PM

I figured if several say they saw a Sea Snake in the BVI's they must be right. However, upon googling the question asking if there are Sea Snakes there the resounding answer from every article was no.

No Sea Snakes.
Posted By: TIMRIM

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 06:25 PM

Google don't know everything yet
Posted By: CaptainJay

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 06:33 PM

Very likely that it was an eel.


Shaptail Eel
Posted By: RickinAtlanta

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 06:34 PM

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TIMRIM said:
Google don't know everything yet


"Google" pulls up reference articles from numerous legitimate sources. Here's another reference from a reliable source, B-V-I.com. Maybe you've heard of it?

Give "Google" a try sometime you might find it interesting.

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Snake Eel. Another eel, the Snake Eel, resemble snakes, but there are no sea snakes in the Caribbean. Snake Eels have behavior resembling Morays, although they may at times be seen foraging in the open during the day.
Posted By: tradewinds

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 06:57 PM

Many land snakes are decent swimmers.
Posted By: RickinAtlanta

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 07:14 PM

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tradewinds said:
Many land snakes are decent swimmers.


Then that would be a Land Snake that swims. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: Sea Snake - 06/02/2017 11:37 PM

Without a doubt we saw a sea snake at Salt Pond, striped and colorful. Not much scares me underwater, but this was a shocker We called the local St.John dive shop and they were well aware of it and thanked me. She said they were not aggressive but a little poisonous.
Posted By: HillsideView

Re: Sea Snake - 06/03/2017 12:37 AM

Shhhhh...if the BVI gov't hears about this they will tax it.
Posted By: RickinAtlanta

Re: Sea Snake - 06/03/2017 03:30 AM

A "little poisonous"??
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: Sea Snake - 06/03/2017 04:18 AM

she said probably not deadly, <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> I did not go close enough to find out, my wife will attest, not an eel. However I have dove and snorkeled Salt Pond several times since.
Posted By: casailor53

Re: Sea Snake - 06/03/2017 02:38 PM

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sail2wind said:
Without a doubt we saw a sea snake at Salt Pond, striped and colorful. Not much scares me underwater, but this was a shocker We called the local St.John dive shop and they were well aware of it and thanked me. She said they were not aggressive but a little poisonous.

Again, NO sea snakes in the Caribbean. The dive shop is either wrong or was pulling your leg.
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/03/2017 02:55 PM

Remember there were no Lion fish in the Atlantic
Now they're all over the place.
Posted By: casailor53

Re: Sea Snake - 06/03/2017 03:03 PM

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sail2wind said:
Without a doubt we saw a sea snake at Salt Pond, striped and colorful. Not much scares me underwater, but this was a shocker We called the local St.John dive shop and they were well aware of it and thanked me. She said they were not aggressive but a little poisonous.

And according to this site, which I believe is run by ictheologists, the sharp tail eel can mimic the stripes of a sea snake.
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: Sea Snake - 06/03/2017 04:14 PM

There was no way she was pulling my leg, we had a serious conversation. She even to be aware of the situation a Salt Pond
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/04/2017 07:20 PM

There also are Orcas in the Caribbean.
Posted By: wmangum

Re: Sea Snake - 06/06/2017 03:25 PM

And sea lions.
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Posted By: casailor53

Re: Sea Snake - 06/06/2017 06:31 PM

Did you report it? Supposedly, Caribbean monk seals are considered extinct, with the last confirmed sighting in 1952. You could be a footnote in "The Annals of Marine Mammals"!
Posted By: wmangum

Re: Sea Snake - 06/06/2017 10:23 PM

It was not a monk seal. It was a sea lion.
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 02:13 PM

The day I see a Polar bear I'm out of here <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: casailor53

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 02:18 PM

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wmangum said:
It was not a monk seal. It was a sea lion.

Curious how you could tell. Is there a pic you didn't post that shows ear flaps? Could it have been an escapee from Coral World in STT? I can't find anything about sea lions naturally occurring in the Caribbean. Thanks.
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 02:28 PM

Difference:
https://oceanconservancy.org/blog/2017/0...and-a-sea-lion/
Posted By: JasonHelmbrecht

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 02:58 PM

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casailor53 said:
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wmangum said:
It was not a monk seal. It was a sea lion.

Curious how you could tell. Is there a pic you didn't post that shows ear flaps? Could it have been an escapee from Coral World in STT? I can't find anything about sea lions naturally occurring in the Caribbean. Thanks.


This album might have a few pictures.
Posted By: casailor53

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 02:59 PM

I had read something similar to that and it really doesn't help based on the pics posted. I was hoping for more from Walker, who may have heard them bark (or not), seen the feet, seen ear flaps (or not), etc. If you really want to demo your google skills, find me something that says they are in the Caribbean (other than captive ones). Admittedly, my google skills suck! Thanks
Posted By: Orange_Burst

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 03:37 PM

If I recall, he escaped from Puerto Rico. I don't remember the details.
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 07:33 PM

It was obvious you couldn't tell by looking at the pictures if it was a Seal or a Sea lion.
So I did a simple google search which goes into detail what the differences are.
I'm sure if we can see a picture of it moving on the beach we will know immediately.
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 07:45 PM

I just enhanced Mangums second photo on my phone and the ear is a plain hole making it a Seal instead of a hole with a flap that would make it a Sea Lion.
I enhanced it by making it as light as possible and converted it to Tonal.
Posted By: wmangum

Re: Sea Snake - 06/07/2017 10:19 PM

Wrong.

It was a Sea Lion. It escaped from an aquatic park in the DR. It was subsequently captured (Anguilla or St. Martin) and returned.
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/08/2017 12:32 PM

Sounds good!
Posted By: Orange_Burst

Re: Sea Snake - 06/08/2017 12:52 PM

https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/specimenviewer.aspx?SpecimenID=238414
Posted By: sail445

Re: Sea Snake - 06/08/2017 01:42 PM

The little fellow really gets around <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ggffrr11

Re: Sea Snake - 06/08/2017 07:17 PM

It could be a European swallow. It is reported that two of them can carry a coconut if they work as a team. (African swallows are non-migratory)
Posted By: RickinAtlanta

Re: Sea Snake - 06/09/2017 02:28 PM

Amazing timing that I got the attached link in an e-mail this morning.

Uncommon Carribean
Posted By: njchilds

Re: Sea Snake - 06/12/2017 01:48 AM

We saw a very similar snake, tannish white pencil thin about a foot and a 1/2 long while anchored at white bay, guana island. It was at night and while we were using a spotlight to see the tarpon, it swam right by.
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