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Posted By: Carol_Hill

Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 02:38 PM

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Posted By: SammyM

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 03:40 PM

Thanks Jeepers and Carol for getting this. Holy smack! This menu has been expanded way beyond what I remember from Kakao and our last visit there in April, 2017. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but I truly don't remember all of those 'high-end' dishes. What a great selection of food and drink being offered here. Prices look to be a tad higher, but that's okay. From past visits we would typically eat a late lunch/early dinner here around 3 o-clock or so (followed by a shot of their latest specialty rum, of course). Then, they'd start packing things up around 4 as the cruise ship visitors departed the scene. With this menu I am curious to see if they are taking a different approach with expanded hours and possibly trying to draw-in more people from Orient Village, Grand Case, etc. Also curious to see if U.S. currency is accepted at matching prices to the Euro here. This was the case in the past. If these prices match for U.S. funds then better to pay in that manner at this time rather than bringing euros. I also noticed that the local 4% tax is included in the listed prices rather than being tacked-on afterwards. Thanks again for all your efforts with this!
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 03:57 PM

Looks a little expensive for my kind of beach day.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 04:05 PM

It is a huge menu, I agree. I actually don't remember them ever taking 1 to 1 on the Euro, but it could be. Hopefully Jeepers will chime in on that.
Posted By: dbarr

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 04:15 PM

We were there for over 3 weeks in December and they do not accept 1 for 1. They were charging 1.15 dollar per 1 euro.
Posted By: murphycpcu

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 04:17 PM

Is Bikini Beach open ?
Posted By: PMagistro

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 04:52 PM

There is a different chef and menu has a Peruvian emphasis. I was there this past weekend and from a food standpoint, I wasn't impressed and the prices are more expensive too. They don't have a Pizza stove and I was told they have no intention of putting one in any time soon.
Posted By: sxmmartini

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 05:11 PM

The fish and chips looks like a good choice for 10 Euro....
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 05:36 PM

PMagistro--I saw that emphasis on Peruvian food, which is unusual for SXM. There doesn't seem to be much traditional French food there. I don't know what you mean about not having a pizza stove, as there are pizzas on the menu?
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 05:36 PM

Bikini is open, yes. They were the first ones to reopen, other than Perch Lite.
Posted By: jeepers

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 06:08 PM

Kontiki similar high prices. Bikini don't know as we didn't go back after they wouldn't acknowledge us at the bar after waiting about 15 minutes.
Posted By: jeepers

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 06:12 PM

Agree. Most restaurants on French side do not have euro =$ but on Dutch side lots have service charge added. One restaurant on boardwalk something like Oualachi asked if we wanted to leave extra as tip to server.
Posted By: LBI2SXM

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeepers
Kontiki similar high prices. Bikini don't know as we didn't go back after they wouldn't acknowledge us at the bar after waiting about 15 minutes.


Well you will not see any cruisers at these places, not with those prices.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 06:51 PM

jeepers--don't blame you. I would have left also. I don't GET not being acknowledged at the bar..
Posted By: StMartinFan

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 06:57 PM

We wandered through the new KKO (that is how their name now appears on signage) when we did our drive around the island last week and talked briefly with the guy offering chairs. He was excited to tell us they have a new Peruvian chef which is the source for the emphasis for the menu. The new building looks very nice but it was too early for lunch and we weren't planning a beach day. I used to love their food so it will be interesting to see of the new menu has the same appeal.

Apparently the higher ticket, more upscale menu works ok for beach bars because we did stop for lunch at Anse Marcel and it was very busy with most tables filled.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 07:53 PM

With those menu prices and 30 for 2 chairs and umbrella I wont be going there very often if any.
Posted By: Beevly

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 08:47 PM

Nothing like the old menu, all my favorites are gone except beef carpaccio. I'll still try it though, there's some intrigue in that menu and I don't think the prices are out of line. It's an upscale beach restaurant.
Posted By: jeepers

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 09:34 PM

Believe it or not, it was very busy on a cruise day. They had many servers that were running everywhere. Like I said it was the same guy that I've seen running bikini beach that was telling people what to do. We had to wait for food & bill but had nowhere to be. Sebastian from Petit Bistro was eating lunch there.
Posted By: PMagistro

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:05 PM

Yes, Pizza in on the menu. When I sought to order a pizza, I was declined and they explained the reason was lack of a pizza oven.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:16 PM

Any chance they were doing a presold deal or special for cruise ship passengers?
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by PMagistro
Yes, Pizza in on the menu. When I sought to order a pizza, I was declined and they explained the reason was lack of a pizza oven.

That is always a great start!
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by PMagistro
Yes, Pizza IN ON the menu. When I sought to order a pizza, I was declined and they explained the reason was lack of a pizza oven.

Does that mean it's on the menu or not on? Wording is confusing to me.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Originally Posted by PMagistro
Yes, Pizza IN ON the menu. When I sought to order a pizza, I was declined and they explained the reason was lack of a pizza oven.

Does that mean it's on the menu or not on? Wording is confusing to me.

Look at the menu pictures, one clearly indicates and lists pizzas. Six plus a mini pizza are listed.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:33 PM

Got it. Didn't see all the menu at first. Now i did.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Got it. Didn't see all the menu at first. Now i did.


I am not trying to be a smarta$$ but it is often beneficial to read the entire thread. You were the second comment so you just about had to see the pictures of the menu.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/29/2019 10:48 PM

Oh I saw the menus. Just missed the pizza section after noticing the high price points of the rest of the menu items. I was mostly trying to figure out what PMagistro was trying to say that was confusing to me in his post.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 12:16 AM

OK, thanks. They have always had pizza there, in my experience. Maybe they don't want to offer it, as it seemed to be a lot cheaper than most everything else on the menu???
Posted By: SXMFOX

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 12:33 AM

Hey carol, which one of the restaurants had the oooh sooo good salmon wrapped in puff pastry? My wife and me saw you and Eric in one of your trip reports with the photos. It inspired us so much we had to have it. One of our best lunches on orient beach! But never found it on the menu again, assuming we were going to the same restaurant, LOL! That was some of the best advice we received from MANY trip reports from EVERYONE, but that was the best.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 01:47 AM

I'm pretty sure that was at Kakao, but was a special.
Posted By: PMagistro

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 02:02 PM

No. We've been going there for years and spoke to Antoine.
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by PMagistro
There is a different chef and menu has a Peruvian emphasis. I was there this past weekend and from a food standpoint, I wasn't impressed and the prices are more expensive too. They don't have a Pizza stove and I was told they have no intention of putting one in any time soon.


A friend whose opinion I trust regarding food said the same thing about the food. We'll give it a try in November; Peruvian food is good, and I like the idea of something different. Odd though, to have pizza on the menu with no intention of serving it.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 03:54 PM

"Odd though, to have pizza on the menu with no intention of serving it."
They might have had a change of heart after menus were printed. Or plan on adding availability at a later time.
Posted By: PMagistro

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:07 PM

The issue is they simply don't have the proper oven to make pizza.

Perhaps they'll have a change of heart and buy an oven down the road, but Antoine (the owner) told me he wasn't going to get one.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:13 PM

Interesting, considering the pizza is one of the only really reasonably priced items on the menu. It appears that the burgers are 15E without ANY sides. People look at the menu, decide to have pizza and sit down and order drinks, then they don't have the pizza, when they go to actually order. Bait and switch?? I'm guessing they changed their minds after they printed the menus and don't want to pay to have them re-printed. A pizza oven is a large expense, but it's not like they didn't know that before they put the pizza on the menu? We ordered a pizza to share, usually along with a salad to share, several times there in the past. In general, I actually don't see much there on that menu that would cause me to want to eat there.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:24 PM

It would be mighty easy to cover the pizza section or print a new page without the pizzas listed. Pretty simple.
Posted By: PMagistro

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:25 PM

I really don't get the feeling they intended to purposely deceive anyone. I think this is really a case of printing the menu before they had all of the equipment and the financial reality of the cost to purchase the oven was more then they wanted to spend.

I would also say 19 Euros for a burger is a bit pricey for my pocketbook.

We seems to eat lunch that the Perch every day at 1:30pm. Between the happy hour 2 for 1 drinks and the $10 burger that made more sense to us.
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:36 PM

An add a side of ff for 5.00€ to that burger and its right up there.
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:38 PM

While it may not have been intentional, it would be very easy to change the menu to avoid any confusion about pizza. Not doing so just perpetuates the problem.
Posted By: CaribLee

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:48 PM

Think I might order the wife a Pornstar Martini. It sure can't hurt noevil
Posted By: SXMScubaman

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by CaribLee
Think I might order the wife a Pornstar Martini. It sure can't hurt noevil

Think it will change anything. Lol
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 05:03 PM

Agreed, JD. NOW it looks intentional to me. According to what the owner told PMagisto, they don't intend to carry pizzas. Get it off the menu. Those burgers are very pricy to me..
Posted By: LBI2SXM

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by GaKaye
Originally Posted by PMagistro
There is a different chef and menu has a Peruvian emphasis. I was there this past weekend and from a food standpoint, I wasn't impressed and the prices are more expensive too. They don't have a Pizza stove and I was told they have no intention of putting one in any time soon.


A friend whose opinion I trust regarding food said the same thing about the food. We'll give it a try in November; Peruvian food is good, and I like the idea of something different. Odd though, to have pizza on the menu with no intention of serving it.


Seems reasonable enough. Going out to dinner, you see their menu, pricey, then you notice the pizza which is okay within your price range. You are seated and order. "oh, we do not serve pizza". Now you are hungry, tired, it's late so what do you do? Leave? No, you substitute for a more pricey dinner. I believe they have it all figured out. I would love to try some of their food but I will not go there, too many other restaurants to choose. Some say menu error but I seriously doubt it.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 08:00 PM

I agree with the reasoning overall, but as far as I know, they are not open for dinner. But most people who are seated and order a drink would not leave in this circumstance, but try to find something else to order, as you say.
Posted By: SammyM

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 08:38 PM

A few years ago I got the 'KKO Burger' and it was really, really good. Not quite to 'die for', but close. But, no way was it priced at 19 euros. I think it used to be 15 euros so that's like a 27 percent price increase doing the quick math. Until more places emerge on Orient Beach that can compete for the lunchtime dollars this may be the deal for a while. Seeing these prices at Kakao I'm curious. Of the places now open on Orient Beach which one has the best value?
Posted By: TravelHat

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 11:18 PM

Needs to reprint the menu, plain and simple. If you are going to do pizza you need ovens that are hot, very hot, and big so you can do the volume. Nothing worse than waiting an hour for a pizza. Well maybe one thing, seeing it on the menu and it doesn’t exist.
Posted By: BeachKitten

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 11:24 PM

We used to spend days at Kakao and easily spend over $200. However, I see nothing exciting about this menu. For the price of their ribeye steak I will just stop at Dinghy Dock on the way home and get one for $5! Add a load of sides for another $5.

Used to love their specials...cannot imagine what they would charge for a beef Welly. There was a good risotto at times as well. Burgers came with fries. Not happy about the current offerings or prices.
Posted By: TravelHat

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/30/2019 11:40 PM

Somebody’s going to figure out the whole food truck thing and put some good ole capitalism on the beach.
Posted By: Carol_Hill

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/31/2019 12:32 AM

Leona--you and I are on the same page here..
Posted By: GaKaye

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/31/2019 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by BeachKitten
We used to spend days at Kakao and easily spend over $200. However, I see nothing exciting about this menu. For the price of their ribeye steak I will just stop at Dinghy Dock on the way home and get one for $5! Add a load of sides for another $5.

Used to love their specials...cannot imagine what they would charge for a beef Welly. There was a good risotto at times as well. Burgers came with fries. Not happy about the current offerings or prices.


For many years, Kakao was our favorite spot on Orient. Like you, Leona, we loved their specials, but several years ago, they got a new chef, and things haven't been the same since then. I still have hopes that this new chef and new direction will be an improvement.
Posted By: BeachKitten

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/31/2019 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by GaKaye
Originally Posted by BeachKitten
We used to spend days at Kakao and easily spend over $200. However, I see nothing exciting about this menu. For the price of their ribeye steak I will just stop at Dinghy Dock on the way home and get one for $5! Add a load of sides for another $5.

Used to love their specials...cannot imagine what they would charge for a beef Welly. There was a good risotto at times as well. Burgers came with fries. Not happy about the current offerings or prices.


For many years, Kakao was our favorite spot on Orient. Like you, Leona, we loved their specials, but several years ago, they got a new chef, and things haven't been the same since then. I still have hopes that this new chef and new direction will be an improvement.


Georgia, they actually went through 3 chefs in 2 years. Trust me, it was obvious. wink
Posted By: ruralcarrier

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 01/31/2019 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by TravelHat
Somebody’s going to figure out the whole food truck thing and put some good ole capitalism on the beach.

There used to be a couple in Marigot that a lot of locals frequented. I went one night with a local friend and had a really decent meal out of one.
Posted By: TravelHat

Re: Kakao menu from Jeepers - 02/01/2019 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by ruralcarrier
Originally Posted by TravelHat
Somebody’s going to figure out the whole food truck thing and put some good ole capitalism on the beach.

There used to be a couple in Marigot that a lot of locals frequented. I went one night with a local friend and had a really decent meal out of one.

It would be a no brainer. You could have a commissary and replenish between stops. Probably some crazy regs to keep them out.
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