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St John park fees going up

Posted By: Kimber

St John park fees going up - 10/09/2015 01:42 AM

Looks like substantial mooring fee increases for 2016 but still less than BVI.

http://m.virginislandsdailynews.com/news/v-i-national-park-to-raise-user-fees-1.1954780
Posted By: LocalSailor

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/09/2015 02:14 PM

I found another press release with more information here:

http://stthomassource.com/content/news/local-news/2015/10/08/vi-national-park-increase-fees
Posted By: TomC

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/09/2015 04:24 PM

The National Park Senior Pass, available to those 62 and older for a one-time $10 fee, can be used for a 50% discount on mooring fees. The pass is available online at the NPS web site or at any National Park. So, if one of your crew has the pass, the current $7.50 discounted fee with rise to $13. Still a great deal!
Posted By: RickG

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/09/2015 04:29 PM

Sounds like the America the Beautiful pass for $80 pays for itself after seven nights on a mooring.

Cheers, RickG
Posted By: Twanger

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/09/2015 08:47 PM

Link to the annual pass web-site is here:

http://www.nps.gov/findapark/passes.htm
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/09/2015 11:34 PM

still $13 for us seniors, yep 6 x = $78, at $26 it's only 3 12 days <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: sail445

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/10/2015 12:07 AM

When Rockefeller gave the property to the US National Parks he stipulated that the park was to be free for all Americans to visit.
Posted By: maytrix

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/10/2015 06:16 PM

$26? Who's bright idea was that - Since its a pay station and no one to give change, I think $25 would have made a lot more sense.
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/11/2015 04:12 AM

they accept credit cards
Posted By: RickG

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/11/2015 12:38 PM

We're going to pick up the annual pass at the NPS Visitors Center in Cruz Bay on our January trip. I need to check if our sailing guests have the Golden Age pass. Two people are allowed to be named on the pass, but they do not have to be related. This works nicely for our boat.

Cheers, RickG
Posted By: BarefootLife43

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/24/2015 09:28 AM

doesn't look like the annual pass covers camping fees (expanded amenities). Did you contact the park and get confirmation that it does? Looks like 65 and older can get 50% off.
Posted By: Nutmeg

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/24/2015 11:59 AM

I thought that Cinnamon Bay Campground was a concession, not run by the park. I didn't think that the pass would cover that, but I could be wrong. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: sail445

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/24/2015 12:19 PM


When they first installed the moorings they were free for about two years because they couldn't figure out a way to implement the fee to the boaters.
That should tell you what kind of geniuses you're working with. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: SuburbanDharma

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 01:31 AM

How on earth can you pay with a credit card at one of those pay station boxes?
And where does it show that the annual pass allows discounted moorings? I've looked at both links but didn't see moorings (or boats for that matter) mentioned anywhere. I must be going blind in my advanced age. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Spook.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: sail445

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 02:45 AM

You write your cc number on the payment form.
Posted By: goozee

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 10:38 AM

That doesn't sound like the best idea.

goozee
Posted By: TomC

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 12:21 PM

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SuburbanDharma said:
How on earth can you pay with a credit card at one of those pay station boxes?
And where does it show that the annual pass allows discounted moorings? I've looked at both links but didn't see moorings (or boats for that matter) mentioned anywhere. I must be going blind in my advanced age. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Spook.gif" alt="" />


Here is a link to the page containing fees and discount info.
Posted By: sail445

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 02:20 PM

That's the only way with a card or go to an ATM.
You can always stiff them <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Groovin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 04:23 PM

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goozee said:
That doesn't sound like the best idea.

goozee



why not, done it many times, you can also put cash in the envelope. It usually takes several weeks for the CC to post to your account. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: goozee

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 09:37 PM

Too much cc fraud going around. Our cc # was just stolen in St. Thomas. What a hassle.

goozee
Posted By: Maria_and_Steve

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/28/2015 10:24 PM

I agree with goozee. Our CC was also stolen this past season, after we used it for the mooring fees. Maybe that was just coincidence but I tend to doubt it.
Posted By: SuburbanDharma

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/29/2015 12:05 AM

TomC, thanks for the link... I really must be going blind because I had read that earlier & skipped right over that. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />

Guess we'll have to wait a few more years for the Golden Age discount... And meanwhile I'll limit my credit card theft to e-commerce websites & stick cash in the mooring boxes. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/29/2015 01:09 AM

Who accepts CC's for mooring in BVI?
Posted By: Kimber

Re: St John park fees going up - 10/29/2015 02:38 AM

Cooper Island will add it to your dinner tab if you ask them. At some point the next day you may notice they also included it in their %15 gratuity too. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" /> Note to self, try to limit financial decisions after two for one painkillers. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/dine.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: cruzan1

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/04/2015 08:06 PM

The park should have a fee collection system similar to what they do in the Bight. I'd guess that a surprising number of vessels never pay. The $26.00 fee is silly, they should make it an even $30.00
Posted By: LocalSailor

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/04/2015 08:43 PM

The BVI has a lot of moorings in a place like the Bight, and many local businesses come out and collect the fees there and all over -- STJ has no businesses in each bay the way the BVI does - they often have a host boat designated in some of the bays over the winter season to basically take attendance but they can't collect money - the NPS maintaining the moorings is a big job already and I doubt they have the personnel and payroll to have a few boats try to go everywhere each evening and collect the fees.
Posted By: tothedogs

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/04/2015 11:42 PM

I have been told that the NPS somehow monitors the names of the boats in the anchorages to see if they have paid. If not, the charter company gets dinged for the fee.

On a recent charter with IYC, I was asked to save the stubs from the envelopes and give them to IYC at the end of the charter.
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/05/2015 05:14 PM

never heard that one
Posted By: tothedogs

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/05/2015 08:42 PM

It sounded odd to me, but when I am using someone else's boat, I try to abide by their rules.
Posted By: Nutmeg

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/05/2015 10:31 PM

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tothedogs said:
I have been told that the NPS somehow monitors the names of the boats in the anchorages to see if they have paid. If not, the charter company gets dinged for the fee.

On a recent charter with IYC, I was asked to save the stubs from the envelopes and give them to IYC at the end of the charter.


This is true. I don't think it is every boat every day, but as Dirty Harry said, "Do you feel lucky?"
Posted By: sail2wind

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/05/2015 11:44 PM

We usually pay with a CC, makes it so easy. We have also seen the courtesy guys driving around the anchorages
Posted By: sail445

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/06/2015 01:40 PM

NPS at one time and took down the names of boats but didn't record the size or make of the boat,occasionally there was more then one boat with the same name.
Save your receipts.
Posted By: CaptainJay

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/07/2015 03:57 PM

For the record yes they do take down boat names and they will track you down thru the charter company. The St John park moorings are a great asset to the whole boating community. Please pay your park fees and round up to $30 if you don't have change. They do a good job using that money for the park in St John.

Jay
Posted By: rundugrun

Re: St John park fees going up - 11/10/2015 06:05 PM

Just to agree with Jay... The NPS definitely keeps track of the boats on the moorings. I inadvertently picked up one of the balls for vessels over 60 feet, and within 10 minutes an NPS person motored up to me informing me of my error. You may not see them, but the NPS is keeping track of who is using the mooring balls.
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