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Re: Which is the BEST catamaran for 1st bareboat? [Re: aarpskier]
      #1752767 - 12/03/17 01:40 PM (

Another amen here!

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Re: Which is the BEST catamaran for 1st bareboat? [Re: Manpot]
      #1752806 - 12/04/17 01:11 PM (

I have sailed on the 4000 both the 4 cabin and the 3 cabin with owner's suite. The second trip I had to single hand a lot and with all of the lines leading to the helm it was manageable. My wife knows next to nothing about sailing but was great at picking up mooring balls and helping put on fenders for docking while I manned the helm. My 14 year old son helped with the lines at times but started getting seasick especially on our way to Anegada and the more exposed swells

The biggest issue you will have is raising the main. It is a real pain with the lazy jacks. If you have room, you can raise the main on the ball and get going. For the shorter trips I just used the jib and still was able to get 5-6 knots on a close reach to close hauled.

The three cabin version of the 4000 is awesome, your wife will love it. Very open and bright with lots of room. Your daughters will love it as well. Life lines all around and very stable. Please keep in mind that it has no great sailing qualities and 50 degrees to wind is as close as you can get with it being more comfortable 60-55 degs. For up wind sailing we just used the motor.

Any issue we had with the 4000 (there were a few) were quickly dealt with and didn't impact us at all. This is a great comfort for us first time bareboaters

If you can afford the more expensive Moorings pricing I highly recommend for a first time bareboat charterer. We used it for our first and second bareboat charter and didn't regret one thing. Next time we may branch out to other charter companies and other boats (would love to try a Lagoon 40 or 45 or a FP Helia)

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Re: Which is the BEST catamaran for 1st bareboat? [Re: aarpskier]
      #1752900 - 12/06/17 06:33 PM (

That's why I said to look at other stuff and not size...

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Re: Which is the BEST catamaran for 1st bareboat? [Re: Rhindley]
      #1753127 - 12/10/17 08:09 PM (

With kids involved, when deciding on a charter company, consider the amenities they have at the base since most of us spend the first night (and sometimes last night) on the dock. The Moorings/Sunsail have full-service resort amenities like swimming pool, multiple restaurants/bars, convenience store, dive shop etc and easy access to supermarkets and other things nearby in Roadtown.

More towards your question, last summer we (two couples and a 6 year-old) chartered a 3900 from the moorings and we would not hesitate to do it again. Whatever boat you choose, I would recommend always having someone in your crew who has some boating experience besides yourself (or at minimum someone who is mechanically inclined and who is cool under pressure). While most charter boats are designed for easy single-handed sailing during most phases of your trip, things do go wrong and when they do, it is much easier for an able crew to coordinate a response. We had compound failures during a squall and things got challenging for us even with two experienced and certified sailors.

Pick a company, pick a boat and start planning! Our vacation starts the minute we put down the deposit! You're going to have a blast!

Mark Shichtman
"Live for Today!"



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Re: Which is the BEST catamaran for 1st bareboat? [Re: MarkS]
      #1753254 - 12/13/17 08:25 AM (

One thing I have not seen mentioned is to get a temp captain for the first day or so. If this is your first time on a relatively big boat, with no others having experience, this can be very helpful. It's kinda like trying to teach your kids how to ski...much better to leave that to someone else. This is not meant to be an assessment of your skills. I will never regret the first time (almost 20 years ago) where we hired Tim for the first 2 days on our first bareboat.

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