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Re: White Bay swim area
[Re: LianeLeTendre]
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We avoid White Bay because of the dangerous boating situation. Maybe now it will resolve and be a fun place to visit again. The party boats from St John and Elswhere must be pissed,with this and the new entry regs their cash cow is drying up.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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According to the ongoing thread the buoys start west past One Love with breaks in the bouy chain for dinghy drop off. One would assume they would have a dinghy line somewhere but that is not clear.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/05/2016 03:51 PM
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Interesting reading the comments on the FB page from the day boat captains. They've never seen a problem. If you can't see the problem, maybe you are the problem? <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> I doubt the bars will miss any traffic either. Can't count the number of times we have watched them come ashore with everything they need and swim back to grab another out of the cooler later on.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/05/2016 06:00 PM
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sail2wind said: Wow, I just went to their webcam and it really looks weird without boats in front of Soggy Dollar. Did they actually remove all the mooring balls? The mooring balls that were there lasted about 6 months, due to no maintenance, and getting run over.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/05/2016 06:30 PM
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Sunnykm said: Is anchoring better than having mooring balls?
I know we will be spending the day there on a 4800 so we will be anchoring Anchoring in White Bay it not easy and the conditions need to perfect. We once anchored for 3 days there with a few other TTOL peeps. The bottom is part sand and part rock, you really need to be experienced anchoring. If there is any swell whatsoever, I would not even moor there. As Bridget says, Great Harbour is more protected and there are some good anchoring spots as well.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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tradewinds said:sail2wind said: Wow, I just went to their webcam and it really looks weird without boats in front of Soggy Dollar. Did they actually remove all the mooring balls? The mooring balls that were there lasted about 6 months, due to no maintenance, and getting run over. When there is any swell with the shallow depth and short rode the moorings are simply abused. Well built moorings must be in deep enough water to add a good length of chain to absorb some of shock loads from swell, waves, or even wakes.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/06/2016 11:33 AM
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It'll be interesting to see how long the swim area lasts. I love Jost and White Bay, but the behavior I've witnessed by some of the visiting day boat captains leads me to believe that if it interferes with their business, the buoys may "disappear". I can't count the times that I've been standing in the water and have been forced to move to avoid being hit by a day boat coming in. If they don't care about a person in their way, I guarantee they don't care about a buoy - especially if the beach bars decide it's not good for business either.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/06/2016 12:28 PM
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This probably won't last. Though not my kind of beach experience, White Bay has become a drive up day boats destination..many from USVI but also BVI. Unlike Spring Bay where the same sort of buoy line keeps dinghys out, there is an economic consequence to this action. I am unsure of the length of White Bay that the buoy line goes ..if it simply moves the anchored day boats and keep from congregating in front of Soggy Dollar area, will work. If it's a small "safe area" will likely stay. If is restrictive for most of that side of white bay and keeps day boats and their passengers from the lines at Soggy Dollar, there will likely be some changes. When it's not about the $$, it will become so quickly. During the day for a long time White Bay has become a place to watch the parade of people, not a pristine beach experience.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/06/2016 12:53 PM
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Thankfully I did it as a day-tripper from St John once for the true "soggy" experience. There's absolutely no way I'm bringing a boat that I chartered in there. I take a cab over from Great Harbor.
It will be interesting to see how it works out.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/06/2016 12:57 PM
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The day boat invasion seems to be increasing at Smugglers too. Last week two USVI boats pulled up in waiding distance in the middle of the bay and let off a couple dozen people and coolers then proceeded to provide "musical" intertainment by turning up their sterios full blast.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/08/2016 01:53 PM
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Looks the same to me. There was a boat right where that CC with the 3 OB's is when I looked yesterday.
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Re: White Bay swim area
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09/08/2016 02:48 PM
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Meg said: I believe that the swim area is farther over than you can see on the webcam and there is also supposed to be an area down near One Love as well. Some of the bigger buoys are periodically behind the palms on the cam also.
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