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Re: Someone died? [Re: Carol_Hill] #135628
07/16/2017 12:38 PM
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How about taking the public side out of the equation and put those curved deflectors on the airport side of the fence to send the exhaust upward instead of towards the beach.

They are not that high and do the trick or at least minimize the blast. If a plane lands THAT short it will kill all those on the fence anyway.

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Re: Someone died? [Re: boucharda] #135629
07/16/2017 12:46 PM
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If warning signs do not deter jerks from staying away from the fence? they need do nothing.... There will always be thrill seekers, hopefully getting this out through the news media will at least put a thought in stupid people for doing this... I know for sure this was on news media in the states and on facebook... Other than that, the Island can do nothing... and have no reason too... Do at your own risk should be there... lol

Re: Someone died? [Re: boucharda] #135630
07/16/2017 03:27 PM
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The issue at that point is damaging the PLANE and those onboard, not the people on the ground.


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Re: Someone died? [Re: Carol_Hill] #135631
07/17/2017 03:15 AM
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They are in use in many airports to deflect jet exhaust from sensitive areas both environmental and structural. Just thought they might work here.

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Re: Someone died? [Re: shieneehead] #135632
07/17/2017 07:40 AM
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Interesting article on why the concrete barriers are even there.

https://721news.com/top-story/history-concrete-road-divider-maho-beach/

Re: Someone died? [Re: boucharda] #135633
07/17/2017 07:55 AM
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The problem with them in SXM is because the runway is so tight already and a solid barrier would leave even less margin for error.


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Re: Someone died? [Re: Carol_Hill] #135634
07/17/2017 10:27 AM
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The deflecting barrier could be made of wood which would shatter if hit by a plane and not have any more risk than the existing chain link fences.

Re: Someone died? [Re: RI Bob C] #135635
07/17/2017 10:56 AM
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They are actually made out of a plastic-like composite that does exactly as you suggest.and they are maybe four or so feet high...definitely not a landing issue

Re: Someone died? [Re: boucharda] #135636
07/17/2017 11:02 AM
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The ones that I have seen are MUCH taller than that. I don't see how a four foot tall wall would do any good?


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Re: Someone died? [Re: Carol_Hill] #135637
07/17/2017 11:36 AM
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Correct...it was a low off the cuff estimate...the normal height is 8 feet which is approximately the height of the present fence. The barrier itself is easily broken into fragments if it is struck.

Point being it would remove the attraction for anyone to hang on the fence AND remove the sand/object blasting issues from those on the beach and make the area a place just for watching planes land.

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Re: Someone died?/Maho Jet Blast [Re: blackmercedes] #135638
07/17/2017 01:51 PM
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unfortunately there's no law against stupidity.

Re: Someone died?/Maho Jet Blast [Re: mgh] #135639
07/17/2017 06:34 PM
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Why don't we just leave things the way they are and let the idiots continue. They are only hurting themselves. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/thinks.gif" alt="" />

Re: Someone died?/Maho Jet Blast [Re: SXMBND] #135640
07/17/2017 07:47 PM
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The process of natural selection works pretty well when allowed without intervention.


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