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Re: Bvi airways
[Re: sailbynight]
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03/08/2018 05:34 PM
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Truthfully if the airline had started flights, the hurricane would have killed them as there would be no revenue.for 6 months. Seabourne was a casualty. and was sold. So now you have Cape Air with small planes flying SJU to EIS. Not much to keep a large airport open. Air Sunshine still does Virgin Gorda. Airlift into the BVI is very low and I don't see that changing unless Delta brings in flights using the new planes which are years off from being delivered in quantity. I hope that RTFF is OK with their 2 new 300 passenger ferries. Not many tourists this season, so low revenue. Speedys will come back to providing service to VG from STT
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Re: Bvi airways
[Re: sailbynight]
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03/08/2018 08:24 PM
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Shearch old threads. Several of us predicted this, for sure. Never a chance! Nah, nannah, nah ya! StormJib was wrong - as usual. GeorgeC was right!
Best possibility is Silver using new ATRs, but even that is still demand based. It will be a long time before demand will come from land-based; either locals or tourists.
Charters provide best opportunities for demand, providing the ~$500,000 floating assets that are so easily updated and replaced - even with a major hurricane. And they bring small groups - 6-8 passengers at a time.
My two bits, your mileage will vary.
Last edited by jphart; 03/08/2018 08:27 PM.
JPH I spent my money on booze, broads, and boats...the rest I wasted.
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Re: Bvi airways
[Re: tradewinds]
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03/08/2018 09:22 PM
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Are you sure speedy is using the RTFF ferry. When I was there a couple of weeks ago, the RTFF ferry left just before the Speedy ferry. Don't know where the RTFF ferry was going. There is also a "new" ferry dream ferry which is to start going from Virgin Gorda to Roadtown, probably replacing the smiths boats which all died.
In any event ferries are going to be the preferred mode of transportation in the BVI.
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Re: Bvi airways
[Re: tpcook]
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03/08/2018 11:05 PM
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Airlift into the BVI is very low and I don't see that changing unless Delta brings in flights using the new planes which are years off from being delivered in quantity.
There is good news. Delta is up-gauging service on the current non-stop ATL to STT to ATL route starting April 3. Daily service up-gauged from 737-700 (108 seats) to 757-200 (199 seats). Plus an additional flight on Saturdays ATL-STT-ATL beginning May 5th with an additional 757 (199 seats). Plus, Delta is resuming JFK to STT flights with a 757 (199 seats) starting Saturdays on April 7th. And 7-day daily service JFK to STT with a 757 (199 seats) starting May 24. Our islands are coming back people!
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Re: Bvi airways
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03/09/2018 08:29 AM
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In addition to what Kupe says Delta will be putting the CS100 into service this fall and should have 20 airframes in service within a year. The aircraft was delayed by the Boeing lawsuit otherwise they would be entering service next month. It has truly unique capabilities for long flights off short runways. It could easily do EIS to JFK/ATL even if the runway was wet for departure. Sadly however initially the aircraft will be deployed for mostly short domestic routes. If however the BVI government wants non stops I suspect a subsidy for far less than 7 million would convince Delta to give EIS-ATL a try. London City Airport is for reference 4900 feet long and the aircraft is capable of transatlantic flights from there. London to NYC is 3000 miles. New York to the BVI is 1411 miles. JetBlue is rumored to be interested in the aircraft also. It would fit well in their system. https://leehamnews.com/2015/06/16/cseries-range-even-better-than-bombardier-revealed/
Last edited by GeorgeC1; 03/09/2018 08:49 AM.
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Re: Bvi airways
[Re: sailbynight]
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03/09/2018 10:08 AM
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I was told that for the ferries, if there is not a certain amount of passengers on each run, the government pays the difference. Unfortunately I have nothing to back that up with other than "I was told".
Go Irish!! Bill
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Re: Bvi airways
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03/09/2018 11:43 AM
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Thanks for the correction gordaguy2. I was questioning that myself. That's why I threw it out there.
Go Irish!! Bill
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