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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: NolaJag]
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07/20/2019 04:26 PM
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Christo
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Don't bother.
4 weeks in May/June. Never had an issue finding a FCFS. At this end of the season its not an issue and as soon as BEYC and Saba come back next season I suspect BB will stop being an issue or something of use to anybody, ever...and (we can only hope) will disappear.
Most nights all the BB/Children's balls were taken but there were First Come First Serve Balls open all night. That includes Cooper on two occasions where FCFS were open all night.
Cooper seems to be the main issue at the moment...everywhere else plenty of balls and plenty of anchoring options. My advice would be don't bother with BB, but if you want to be safe, don't aim to arrive late in the day to Cooper.
Norman - all FCFS in June and plenty of them! Marina Cay / Trellis - all FCFS and plenty of them and good anchoring anyway at MC. North sound - Anchor off Sand Box! Save some bucks! It's a beautiful spot, great holding and easy RIB to Leverick. Or otherwise FCFS Leverick. Anegada - plenty of FCFS and great backup of anchor at Pomato Point, great holding, beautiful spot and Fab restaurant on the Beach (Sid's Place). JVD - Diamond Cay - FCFS, Great harbour FCFS. All good. No need for BB
All this info accurate as at end June this year. I'm sure others will correct me if things have changed.
Oh...and have an amazing time!!! Cant see anything horrible brewing in the Atlantic as at today's most recent satellite pics so hopefully you will have awesome weather for the duration too! Enjoy!
Last edited by Christo; 07/20/2019 04:28 PM.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: NolaJag]
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07/20/2019 05:12 PM
07/20/2019 05:12 PM
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Alec Atteberry
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Like Warren and Christo said, I think it depends a lot on what you want to do tomorrow and when you want to get to Cooper. I don’t know about their traffic at the moment, but a month ago when I was there they were full, and most of the BoatyBalls are still booked each day (all 15 were booked today). If you’re fine getting there around noon then you’ll probably be okay with a FCFS but if you want to arrive later you may want to look at getting a BB. With the off season approaching though it might not be as big of a deal.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: NolaJag]
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07/20/2019 05:24 PM
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Christo
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FYI to the OP - Alec Atteberry (although he sometimes claims that he doesn't) does in fact work for Boatyball - so maybe take what he says with a pinch of salt! He likes to sometimes represent the brand...and sometimes just post as a civilian, like the above post.
Some of us on the forum perhaps see this kind of dishonesty as a clue to what lies behind the 'Boatyball' brand and makes us dislike the completely flawed concept even more!
Last edited by Christo; 07/20/2019 05:28 PM.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: Alec Atteberry]
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07/20/2019 05:50 PM
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sail445
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As I’ve mentioned before, I’m a college student that works for BoatyBall in my free time; no pretenses about that. However I believe my response was a pretty fair analysis based off of my experience.
BoatyBall was created to allow boaters to spend more time on the water, and easily pay for maintained and insured moorings. So far it’s allowed thousands boaters to do just that. Previously BB said on this forum when asked about the insurance that BB was just the collection mechanism and that the mooring balls were privately owned and if one did break loose BB was not responsible.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: sail445]
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07/20/2019 05:55 PM
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Alec Atteberry
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As I’ve mentioned before, I’m a college student that works for BoatyBall in my free time; no pretenses about that. However I believe my response was a pretty fair analysis based off of my experience.
BoatyBall was created to allow boaters to spend more time on the water, and easily pay for maintained and insured moorings. So far it’s allowed thousands boaters to do just that. Previously BB said on this forum when asked about the insurance that BB was just the collection mechanism and that the mooring balls were privately owned and if one did break loose BB was not responsible. To clarify, the moorings in the BB program are maintained and insured by Moore Seacure, not BoatyBall.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: NolaJag]
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07/20/2019 05:58 PM
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GeorgeC1
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The problem is that if you do not win in the boatyball lottery at Cooper you now must get there even sooner to have a chance at a ball. We always arrived early at Cooper because we enjoy spending the day there and it’s one of my granddaughters favorite spots. Prior to boatyball I could always get a prime ball where I wanted it. Boatyball took all the prime balls. Last time there we had a crappy ball and watched the boatyballs sitting empty almost all day when we could have enjoyed those balls in the past. It appears you have tried to cherry pick the prime balls to convert. Leave us some good balls please!!! P.S. Tried to stop in midweek to swap tanks at 2 pm. Never a problem in the past. All FCFS balls taken. Only open balls were boatyballs. SailCarribbean lost a chunk of revenue and we did not get our planned morning dive it.
Last edited by GeorgeC1; 07/20/2019 06:09 PM.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: Alec Atteberry]
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07/20/2019 06:07 PM
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sail445
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As I’ve mentioned before, I’m a college student that works for BoatyBall in my free time; no pretenses about that. However I believe my response was a pretty fair analysis based off of my experience.
BoatyBall was created to allow boaters to spend more time on the water, and easily pay for maintained and insured moorings. So far it’s allowed thousands boaters to do just that. Previously BB said on this forum when asked about the insurance that BB was just the collection mechanism and that the mooring balls were privately owned and if one did break loose BB was not responsible. To clarify, the moorings in the BB program are maintained and insured by Moore Seacure, not BoatyBall. Moore Secure’s FCFS balls are also insured.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: sail445]
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07/20/2019 06:10 PM
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Alec Atteberry
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As I’ve mentioned before, I’m a college student that works for BoatyBall in my free time; no pretenses about that. However I believe my response was a pretty fair analysis based off of my experience.
BoatyBall was created to allow boaters to spend more time on the water, and easily pay for maintained and insured moorings. So far it’s allowed thousands boaters to do just that. Previously BB said on this forum when asked about the insurance that BB was just the collection mechanism and that the mooring balls were privately owned and if one did break loose BB was not responsible. To clarify, the moorings in the BB program are maintained and insured by Moore Seacure, not BoatyBall. Moore Secure’s FCFS balls are also insured. Agreed
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: NolaJag]
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07/20/2019 06:20 PM
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warren460
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But boatyball has alway made it sound as If their balls were the only maintained and insured balls. Boaty balls also claims credibility by listing entities as partners. Some of them dont acknowkedge any relationship with boaty ball. Certainly not partners.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: NolaJag]
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07/20/2019 09:10 PM
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warren460
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I spoke to 2 partners. At least one said they had nothing to do with boaty ball. But they did not care that BB provided a link to their page.
BB has very strongly Implied that you should use their ball because of the insurance and maintenance. They suggest that no one else has insured or maintained balls. They have not distinguished between Moore Secure or others.
Maybe someone else can chime in here
Last edited by warren460; 07/20/2019 09:11 PM.
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Re: Cooper Island - to Boaty ball or not to Boaty ball?
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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07/22/2019 03:17 PM
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maytrix
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The problem is that if you do not win in the boatyball lottery at Cooper you now must get there even sooner to have a chance at a ball. We always arrived early at Cooper because we enjoy spending the day there and it’s one of my granddaughters favorite spots. Prior to boatyball I could always get a prime ball where I wanted it. Boatyball took all the prime balls. Last time there we had a crappy ball and watched the boatyballs sitting empty almost all day when we could have enjoyed those balls in the past. It appears you have tried to cherry pick the prime balls to convert. Leave us some good balls please!!! P.S. Tried to stop in midweek to swap tanks at 2 pm. Never a problem in the past. All FCFS balls taken. Only open balls were boatyballs. SailCarribbean lost a chunk of revenue and we did not get our planned morning dive it. Since it isn't going to go away, maybe they can add in a location feature so you could pull up the app when you arrived like you did and it would give you the OK to grab a specific ball since the boat that reserved it is a long way away or something. Only complicates the process and wouldn't be perfect, but there should be some way to get a ball to get tanks filled.
Matt
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