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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/28/2019 08:46 AM
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Between the violent protesting, 3-4 timeshare messes on the Dutch side and this along with what else is going on in various parts of the French side, it is not doing the island, the people or the economy any good and will possibly have very negative long term effects.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/28/2019 09:23 AM
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Wow, the recent protests are a week excuse and their complaints have a lot of merit. They had all the underground utilities buried in April when we were there.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/28/2019 09:44 AM
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Not at all saying the complaints do not have merit but burning cars and destroying property and other violence is not a good solution.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/28/2019 10:03 AM
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No i didn't think that's what you were saying. The excuse of the utilities work not progressing because of the few days of protests is BS. The complaints of favoritism towards the big beach bar owners and being jerked around during the permit process has merit. That whole mess that happened during the protests is unnerving and definitely not condoned. It is already having an effect on tourism as i hear of many cancelling their trips.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/28/2019 10:04 AM
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I knew, when that press release came out, that the infrastructure was complete, that it was BS. They had to know at the time that it was absolutely a lie. There is absolutely NO excuse for what the Collectivite has done, or should I say NOT done, in this circumstance. And the owner of Pirate is correct, there is one rule for the restaurants owned by Luftman and another rule for anyone else. This whole thing is just BS. These people have been screwed every which way by the Collectivite.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/28/2019 10:34 AM
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It sure appears that way. And that is just what I was told was going on.
SXMbeacher...Gotcha.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/29/2019 09:16 AM
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I have no problem going and staying on the Dutch side and have a March trip planned but the French side is s totally different situation.
J.D.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/29/2019 09:55 AM
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What a weird reply. Aren't the French sides "issues" political in nature?
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/29/2019 09:59 AM
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What a weird reply. Aren't the French sides "issues" political in nature? Yes but there is not to be US political discussion here.
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Re: Carbet Owners Vent Frustration
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12/31/2019 02:39 PM
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All this discussion makes me appreciate what Cedrick has done at Club O beach that much more.
After the storm, he went about the task of cleaning up Club O beach, pulling chairs out of the salt pond, and setting up shop starting with nothing but a cooler and a generator, and started slowly rebuilding a business that now employs a significant number of people. No whining, no complaining, and no waiting/pleading for the French government to help. In the last two years, he has rebuilt and relocated Perch Lite, added a kitchen and porta-potties, added more seating, rebuilt the swim platform and even added signage. The beach experience on that end of Orient is now very similar to how it was pre-Irma, as long as you don't look back over your shoulder at the crumbling ruins of Club O ...
While he did have some help from Club O owners to purchase new chairs, as far as I know all of this was done on his initiative. Meanwhile the carbet tenants are finding out just how much a promise from a French government official is worth.
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