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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Nobody I know of would cut at 40+ foot cat loose for a 1 day bareboat charter. Waaaaaaay too much overhead in the turnover of a bareboat cat do make that economical. You could certainly find a captained day-charter to go on. You should google "day sailing in st. thomas" here's one offeror... http://www.daydreamervi.com/
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Twanger said:Nobody I know of would cut at 40+ foot cat loose for a 1 day bareboat charter. Waaaaaaay too much overhead in the turnover of a bareboat cat do make that economical. You could certainly find a captained day-charter to go on. You should google "day sailing in st. thomas" here's one offeror... http://www.daydreamervi.com/ Interesting, in California I belong to a sailing club and we have over 100 private boats in 6 marinas from San Diego to Ventura that are part of the rental program and can be bareboat chartered from 1/2 day to weeks. I was hoping to to find a similar operation in the USVI that I could charter with. Not really interested in someone else being the Captain, I will be tired of that the minute I board the BIG ship in Ft Lauderdale.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Well, I don't know anyone at the Yacht Club that has a big catamaran. And I don't know anyone who would rent their boat out. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" /> I think you are stuck going on someone's crewed boat, unless you want to do a Hobie Cat somewhere. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/sorry.gif" alt="" />
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Kimber said: Can nonmembers of your sailing club just show up and rent a 40+ cat? If so, how much would that cost for a day? Yes, typically they would be a member of another sailing club but not always, they make advance reservations and they can show proper certification and demonstrate their experience on a checkout sail. A Belize 43 charters for $599 a day plus ins and fuel.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Pvgreg said:Kimber said: Can nonmembers of your sailing club just show up and rent a 40+ cat? If so, how much would that cost for a day? Yes, typically they would be a member of another sailing club but not always, they make advance reservations and they can show proper certification and demonstrate their experience on a checkout sail. A Belize 43 charters for $599 a day plus ins and fuel. Excuse my ignorance but what does it cost to be in a sailing club in your area and how much is insurance typically for a Belize? I don't think there are enough boats and interested non boat owners to create a club with multi hundred thousand vessels with such a small population. I was in flying club in the states so I am familiar with the business model.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Kimber said:Pvgreg said:Kimber said: Can nonmembers of your sailing club just show up and rent a 40+ cat? If so, how much would that cost for a day? Yes, typically they would be a member of another sailing club but not always, they make advance reservations and they can show proper certification and demonstrate their experience on a checkout sail. A Belize 43 charters for $599 a day plus ins and fuel. Excuse my ignorance but what does it cost to be in a sailing club in your area and how much is insurance typically for a Belize? I don't think there are enough boats and interested non boat owners to create a club with multi hundred thousand vessels with such a small population. I was in flying club in the states so I am familiar with the business model. The insurance and fuel are about 10% total and the monthly dues are $30. They are an ASA school also, plus they do day boat group trips, night sails, flotillas all around the world and local races. It is definitely not a Yacht Club. Each marina has anywhere from about 10 to 30 boats, power, mono and cats.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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sail2wind said: STYC is not a sailing club, but a private yacht club. There are more power boats then sail boats all individually owned. I am calling you on this. It is a yacht club with a great sailing history!! Lots of sail boats (privately owned) and some of us yucky stink potters. But the bigger picture (to the OP) is that it will be difficult to convince someone to rent you a boat...
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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08/28/2013 04:26 PM
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Only thing I know of that you could do for a day bareboat is a power boat. So if you must be the Captain, that would probably be the way to go. Given just a day, this would allow you to explore more as well - you could even go over to the BVI.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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maytrix said: Only thing I know of that you could do for a day bareboat is a power boat. So if you must be the Captain, that would probably be the way to go. Given just a day, this would allow you to explore more as well - you could even go over to the BVI. Maytrix, any recommendations?
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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That's who we used. Worked out great.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Unfortunately they are only 6 pack boats and I have 10. 4 people may end up drawing short straws that day and have to shop in St Thomas. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duel.gif" alt="" />
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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08/29/2013 09:59 AM
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Check with See and Ski . Their power cats are big enough to handle your 10 folks. The owner is pretty flexible if you call ask for Mathias and speak directly to him. They are out of Red Hook which will be a 30 minute taxi from your cruise ship. You may just have time to head to St. John and not the BVI but there is plenty to do and see over there. Chip
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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We have only visited the bays on the North shore of St. John once in July but would hasten to point out that there is no anchoring anywhere and there seemed to be "eyes" everywhere to enforce the rules.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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tjkunes said: We have only visited the bays on the North shore of St. John once in July but would hasten to point out that there is no anchoring anywhere and there seemed to be "eyes" everywhere to enforce the rules. There is an abundance of NPS moorings available however -- free during the daytrip and cheap at $15 overnight. The S. shore offers NPS moorings as well and anchoring in non-NPS bays like Rendezvous. A useful read: http://www.nps.gov/viis/planyourvisit/boater-information.htm
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Wish we had the NPS info before we visited. 'til next time.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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MissinStT said:Check with See and Ski . Their power cats are big enough to handle your 10 folks. The owner is pretty flexible if you call ask for Mathias and speak directly to him. They are out of Red Hook which will be a 30 minute taxi from your cruise ship. You may just have time to head to St. John and not the BVI but there is plenty to do and see over there. Chip No luck, I just spoke to Mathias and he will not bareboat anymore unless " you've been out a million times with us". Only captained boats and didn't know anyone else that did bare boats anymore.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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Since most USCG Inspected Catamarans are licensed to carry 49 passengers a private charter for only 14, especially on Christmas Day could be quite costly. If a beautiful wooden monohull 1956 yawl is an option I stongly recommend looking at S/V Nightwind https://www.stjohndaysail.com/http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Re...in_Islands.htmlit is comfortable for group of your size - includes food, drink and snorkel gear and has been doing daysails a long time with a stellar reputation. I realize it is a monohull but it is well sailed and a good alternative if you can't find a cost effective catamaran available. I am sure you would have a great trip.
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Re: One Day Charter St Thomas
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LocalSailor said:Since most USCG Inspected Catamarans are licensed to carry 49 passengers a private charter for only 14, especially on Christmas Day could be quite costly. If a beautiful wooden monohull 1956 yawl is an option I stongly recommend looking at S/V Nightwind https://www.stjohndaysail.com/http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Re...in_Islands.htmlit is comfortable for group of your size - includes food, drink and snorkel gear and has been doing daysails a long time with a stellar reputation. I realize it is a monohull but it is well sailed and a good alternative if you can't find a cost effective catamaran available. I am sure you would have a great trip. What he said, It's a nice boat. Also if you want to do St John you are going to have to leave out of the east end. From the main harbor around to St John could be a two to three hour slog straight into the wind that time of year. You would have to turn around as soon as you go there to make it back to the ship. Jay
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