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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: wanderingfarr]
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04/30/2020 01:44 PM
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Hello: I am willing to take a yacht from the BVI to St Thomas. I have owned a 52 ft Jeaneau for years so know the waters. Will use the engine only. Contact me at tpcook@videoautomation.com I want leave around May 13 by air from STT so I can leave your yacht at any marina or meet you.
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: tpcook]
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05/02/2020 05:17 PM
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I have been told that customs is not allowing ANY yachts leaving the BVI and that means I am a captive in the BVI REALLY sucks! and extremely arbitrary government control How can they control the exit of yachts? F*ck them and just leave. There is no way I would allow the screwed up BVI government tell me what I can or can't do with my property. A year from now all will be forgotten.
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: NCSailor]
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05/02/2020 05:31 PM
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I have been told that customs is not allowing ANY yachts leaving the BVI and that means I am a captive in the BVI REALLY sucks! and extremely arbitrary government control How can they control the exit of yachts? F*ck them and just leave. There is no way I would allow the screwed up BVI government tell me what I can or can't do with my property. A year from now all will be forgotten. I was thinking the same thing. I'm not a yacht owner but how would they stop you from leaving? As we've see, boats have sailed in and out of White Bay so who's to stop you sailing to STT? Once you get past the BVI jurisdiction what can they do?
[color:"red"] FRAN[/color] "Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late"
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: NCSailor]
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05/03/2020 01:16 AM
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While the BVI cannot in reality control the exit of yachts, how do you think you will clear in to whatever your destination is? Most countries require outbound clearance from the previous country - that includes the USA. While one can "game" the system by clearing into a French country where they don't generally check previous clearance, all of those islands are currently closed.
In other words, they can't stop you from leaving but you will have nowhere to go to.
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: Zanshin]
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05/03/2020 08:30 AM
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Zanshin Yes, you cannot just leave. First of all you will probably have a problem getting into the USVI and when the time comes and you want to come back to the BVI, they might not let you in. I am going to contact the government on MOnday (first day they are open for months) and ask for permission to leave. I am not against an orderly control of the current situation but there has to be a long term plan on how the bVI will open up to tourism. I have not seen that in writing.
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: warren460]
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05/05/2020 08:48 AM
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We receive conditional clearance and merely need to present passports. Did your captain go to customs? Has to go within 24 hours of departure? Good luck on getting Scuba Doo out and on to next phase!
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: wanderingfarr]
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05/05/2020 09:47 AM
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Deepcut - while the plans sound logical and quite practicable, my experiences with bureaucracies over the years tells me that this won't come to fruition. Neither CBP nor the the BVI customs & immigration have any interest in allowing this - it is just more work and lots more paperwork so they will most likely reject it out of hand. I always remind myself that the most powerful people in most organizations aren't necessarily those at the top but those in a position to say "no". I've resigned myself to having my "Zanshin" on the hard at Nanny Cay not more than 50 yards from where she was when hurricane "Irma" hit. Right now it looks like Sep. 1 for non-belongers coming in but I expect that date to slide. And who wants to pick up a boat to move it when the statistical middle of the hurricane season is Sep 9?
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: wanderingfarr]
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05/05/2020 10:47 AM
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It could be very simple. Have the boat moved by locals to a mooring in West End and a pickup crew brought over from the USVI to bring the boat back. No one from the USVI need set foot on BVI territory. Zero work for the BVI government and employment opportunities for local BVI skippers who desperately need work. It would take one simple edict from the government to allow a USVI crew 4 hours in the territory with the restriction they can not go ashore to return the boat. The government could have this done by close of business today. G
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: wanderingfarr]
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05/05/2020 07:56 PM
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Finally gave up as Newport and the NE shut customs to all passenger vessels from out of US. Talked to customs this AM. So putting on freighter thats arriving roadtown end of may and shipping it up. Thank You and hope to see you all safe and soon next year. If your boat is a US boat and you’re an American they can’t stop you from entering the country. They might have to put you in quarantine but they must let you enter
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: JasonHelmbrecht]
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05/08/2020 07:19 PM
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I just completely all the paperwork to move a large yacht from the BVI to STT. First of all Roam is discontinued fro the USVi. The paperwork is more than usual but doable. We leave May 13 BVI to STT thru West End. I will have crew on board to deal with the mooring lines. The crew will get off the yacht at West End and I and my wife will take the yacht to USVI where the owner will meet us. Complicated epic end to my odyssey in rebuilding the South Sound Villa. The villa is finished and it is time for me to leave.
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Re: Getting boats out
[Re: tpcook]
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05/08/2020 08:10 PM
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I just completely all the paperwork to move a large yacht from the BVI to STT. First of all Roam is discontinued fro the USVi. The paperwork is more than usual but doable. We leave May 13 BVI to STT thru West End. I will have crew on board to deal with the mooring lines. The crew will get off the yacht at West End and I and my wife will take the yacht to USVI where the owner will meet us. Complicated epic end to my odyssey in rebuilding the South Sound Villa. The villa is finished and it is time for me to leave. I know the Boat owner is happy to provide your transportation to BVI! Their bonus is they can now get to their boat.
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