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Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
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12/12/2013 11:25 AM
12/12/2013 11:25 AM
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Hello,
After chartering twice in the BVI and not having to do this, on my recent charter with the Moorings at St. Martin, they told me I needed to take the outboard off of the dinghy and mount it back on the stern pulpit bracket whenever I was towing the dinghy under sail.
Well, this was a pain as I'm not particularly strong and have a bad back. Wrestling that thing on and off the dink even in relatively calm anchorages was not fun and I'm wondering if I was just a sucker for actually doing what they said. I confess, on the last day, on an easy sail back from St. Barts, I left the damn thing on the dink and it did fine.
So what's the logic on this? Are they trying to prolong the life of the dink transom? Is there that much stress?
Do people just ignore this request?
Thanks,
Tom
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: rhans]
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12/12/2013 02:32 PM
12/12/2013 02:32 PM
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We did this in st Lucia. I didn't find it to be a big deal, but it certainly isn't something that would be easy for everyone. On some shorter legs, we did leave it on.
Matt
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: rhans]
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12/12/2013 11:00 PM
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rhans said:maytrix said:You could always just get a cat next time I think I would rather lift the Outboard <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duel.gif" alt="" /> Ha! I'm with you on that. We seriously thought about trying a cat for two reasons - the shallower draft and the davit to avoid the outboard on/off dance. With all apologies to cat-lovers, we couldn't go through with it. I admit, I've never sailed a cruising cat so maybe it's not actually like sitting in a seat and driving a car but it looks that way <flamesuit on="true"/> Of course they are also about $1K more than a monohull when I priced my trip so there's that...
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: tmsxmsails]
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12/13/2013 07:34 AM
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Cats do lack the thrill of heeling, but otherwise can be just as much fun to sail, especially in good winds. Cats we've been on not only have davits, but have electric ones which is really nice. Hard to beat the space too.
And we own a monohull. Both have their pros and cons.
Matt
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: sail2wind]
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12/13/2013 08:56 PM
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sail2wind said: I doubt any charter guest has ever removed an outboard or have any reason to. So I don't get the outboard on/off dance. Moorings St. Lucia does tell everyone to do this. I believe the outboard is actually on the transom when you depart as well. I imagine any locations where there are long stretches of open water they do this - certainly not necessary in the BVI though.
Matt
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: sail2wind]
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12/13/2013 09:38 PM
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Ah yeah, I don't think anyone mentions this in the BVI. Just not needed.
Matt
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: sail2wind]
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12/13/2013 10:00 PM
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sail2wind said: Are the dinghy's motor locked on charter boats? Nope, not on the ones I've been on, but they do provide two locks, so you can lock it if you want. I'd guess most people don't.
Matt
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: Twanger]
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12/22/2013 11:39 PM
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We don't tow a dinghy at all if seas or winds are short or strong.
There are a lot of ways to get a dink and outboard on board. Most charters I have done, both exposed and sheltered came with a small dinghy and motor.
With basic knots you can lift a motor onto the boat by securing the dingy amid ship and lift it on the main halyard up and onto the boat. Its much easier to carry to the transom this way with one crew in the dink keeping it off the side of the boat, the other at the sheet winch.
You can also pull a line through the back of the boom and swing it out over the dinghy and to a sheet winch.
I also bring dinghies on board to the bow this way once the outboard is removed.
I mention this because I like to not flip my dinghy, lose an outboard or pay the .5 knot sailing price.
We will have an 11' rib, 10hp motor this trip and seas may reach 6-8 feet at 8 seconds. With a rib and motor, if wind speed is less than 20 knots, I may just tow as well.
This behavior is not the norm elsewhere where I have sailed and chartered. At home I use a rollup 9' with 6hp motor that can be lifted fairly easily.
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
[Re: eengstrom]
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01/24/2014 10:10 PM
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leave it on, flip up the outboard so the prop is out of the water for sure, tie a bridle to the bow on the dinghy so that its long enough to be aft of your stern wake, remove anything not tied down, tie or lock the outboard to the boat at all times especially when using it, check your dogs often, move the tank to the front of the dink if possible securing it there underway or remove it, pull it in prior to anchoring or mooring, teach your kids how to use it so you have a chaufeur and it empowers them giving them confidence...see my article in Cruising World Aug 2011 "Tips: Smooth Sailing on Charter" Peace.
Captain Mark Living on land and running day charters out of Prince Rupert Bay, Dominica aboard Sanctuary, an IS37 catamaran.
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Re: Do you take the outboard off the dinghy at sail?
#23938
02/15/2014 09:10 AM
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The reason that you have to take the outboard enginge of is that the dinghy can capsize during a saling trip.
Gr Mark
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