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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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01/13/2021 02:18 PM
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Honestly, I don't see any way that they will be able to give that many tests, in a prompt fashion.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/13/2021 02:51 PM
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I would hope that they will allow the Rapid test, which is Viral from what I have read. If they allow that then results with in an hour are common, just had two friends test at the PDX airport to fly to Hawaii and they got their results back in under an hour. The cost was about $130 with proof of upcoming travel. I see that in San Jose Del Cabo the rapid test is under $50, that is our next destination. My assumption is that SXM could do the same, again assuming the rapid will be acceptable.
What I also read on the rapid however is that it has a high rate of "false positive" results, like 20% range.
We are not cancelling our April trip to SXM, and I have to believe that somehow this is going to work out and not crush travel. Think Positive, but don't become positive. Cheers from the mighty Pacific NW !
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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Doc Soc just asked the question to the PM if they will be prepared to give tests to visitors for their return flights to US. She indicated they would be and have 2 weeks to prepare for it
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/13/2021 03:05 PM
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Yeah, I know that's what she SAID. I think she's full of it.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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01/13/2021 03:16 PM
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Yeah, I know that's what she SAID. I think she's full of it. Yep. How many flights to the USA operate each day? I don't know, but we have JB, AA (CLT & MIA), DL (ATL & JFK), UA (LGA & IAD), Spirit. Plus Winair to SJU. I know I missed some. Anyway, that's at least ten to twelve per day, and likely more on some days. They're looking at as many as 1,000 passengers that need to be tested. For flights on a single day. That's a lot.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: BillDauterive]
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01/13/2021 03:39 PM
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US airline agents have been enforcing SXM and other countries rules for months. How is that different? Here's the difference: Gate agents have never been required to enforce CDC rules. They enforce immigration laws, but not CDC rules. So they will now be reviewing a variety of new and unfamiliar documents: Test results from different labs, as well as documentation of positive virus tests accompanied by a note from a doctor that approves travel. And these lab results and doctor notes will be in a variety of formats, and subject to agent interpretation (what if the doctor states that patient tested positive, but does not definitively state that patient is OK to travel?). It's a big mess. We can agree on that... That is the current process in the USA for travel TO SXM. They enforce the rules of travel to SXM..yes, not CDC rules but rules necessary to travel....I can't see an issue with travel back (from an airline verification process) but the testing procedure is a biggie problem You need a passport and negative test...type of test TBA.....maybe
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: BillDauterive]
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But think of the profit that they could make on this, if they get about $25 profit per test then that is $25k per day. Think like a politician, how do you line your pockets off of the situation and part of that is the need to keep people visiting the island.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: boucharda]
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01/13/2021 04:04 PM
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But that is not NEARLY for everyone who arrives. Not sure what the percentage is of arrivals, far less than 10%, one would think.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/13/2021 04:26 PM
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This was taken from the FAQ section of CDC.gov .... they indicate they will accept both types of tests. We've gotten a list of several clinics that can supply them from the Airbnb owner we are staying with. We are going to head on down and hope they get it ironed out by mid February. We'll keep monitoring - I'd guess things can change quickly!
When do I need to get a test to travel to the US? And what kind of test do I need?
Get tested no more than 3 days before your flight to the US departs. Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19. Also make sure that you receive your results before your flight departs and have documentation of your results to show the airline.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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01/13/2021 05:09 PM
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Doc Soc just asked the question to the PM if they will be prepared to give tests to visitors for their return flights to US. She indicated they would be and have 2 weeks to prepare for it. Sorry, I am NOT buying that at all. Way too many changes from previous statements, timing and protocol for dealing with tourists.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/13/2021 05:12 PM
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/13/2021 07:20 PM
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I don't think a note from your MD will suffice. I did not see that in any country entry restrictions. Antibody test..yes ...for some I read that here (link)."Airlines must confirm the negative test result for all passengers or documentation of recovery before they board" (emphasis added). It's also here (link)."you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery.” (emphasis added) So, yeah, only a note from a MD will not suffice. Positive test result needed as well. And that is the problem. The CDC has placed airline ticket counter employees as arbiters of what's valid and what's not. I have a positive test result, and a note from a doctor. I hope it works when I am scheduled to leave the island next month. In addition, I plan to bring a printed version of the CDC webpages referenced above to present to the ticket counter employee.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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01/14/2021 07:50 AM
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I would think that the resorts might provide these tests for their guests. I'm sure more is to come as that date gets closer. Maho group announced just that..starts on the 20th...guests and staff
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/14/2021 09:52 AM
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I expect the rules in your state is the same as just about everywhere Self quarantine
Elaine ********************************* God Bless the broken road....
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/14/2021 02:27 PM
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Another interesting point is that you can have a doctor's certification that you've had Covid and have recovered from it. The CDC has already stated that they don't know how long immunity lasts if you've had the virus. Why is that acceptable yet the vaccine is not? Rhetorical question, of course. I would have to think that it has more to do with the fact that if you have recovered, you are no longer able to TRANSMIT the disease? They aren't concerned about re-infection.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/14/2021 02:35 PM
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Suppose you test positive upon returning to US what happens to you? Better than testing positive BEFORE you return
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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Another interesting point is that you can have a doctor's certification that you've had Covid and have recovered from it. The CDC has already stated that they don't know how long immunity lasts if you've had the virus. Why is that acceptable yet the vaccine is not? Rhetorical question, of course. I would have to think that it has more to do with the fact that if you have recovered, you are no longer able to TRANSMIT the disease? They aren't concerned about re-infection. But you can get it again, at which point you can again transmit it. Therefore, if you became reinfected while abroad, you can transmit it on the plane or when you get home. Total stupidity, in my opinion, and a very poorly thought out plan.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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01/15/2021 01:55 PM
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Daily Herald storyI have zero level of confidence this is going to work out. Glad I don't have a trip coming up soon. Yes, I guess time will tell, but my confidence level is about non-existent.
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
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It's right here (LINK)"Airlines must confirm the negative test result for all passengers or documentation of recovery before they board" (emphasis added). It's also here (LINK)"you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery” (emphasis added). (Positive test with my name on it is dated early December.)
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: BillDauterive]
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OK, those links are both to the CDC, which is for re-entry into the US . You are talking apples and oranges. Your post was talking about is entry into SXM , which is a WHOLE different thing. As far as I can see, there is no similar 'out' in the Travel Requirements for SXM. LINK
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Re: US to require negative test for returning international flights
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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01/15/2021 03:40 PM
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Simpson Bay Resort will do testing for travelers starting on the 20th of January...and Maho/Sonesta group announced the same earlier.
Edit: Just read another thread mentioning this....oops
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